Mt Brogden Bilbul, New South Wales, Australia
By aggysaunt on 06-Oct-09. Waypoint GC1ZJ3V

Despite action by a good Samaritan, it would seem the cache owner is either unwilling or unable to maintain this cache as there is a long-standing issue with the accuracy of the coordinates.

Unfortunately, none of those who indicated the coordinates were not correct bothered to provide correct coordinates! If so the issue might have been resolved.

Apart from physically looking after a cache, cache maintenance also covers keeping the cache page up-to-date. This includes updating any changes to the text, updating coordinates, removing needs maintenance attributes and enabling the listing.

As the cache owner has not responded to the request to update the cache page, the cache is being Archived on the basis it has been abandoned.

We replaced the container, it's all good now.
That's a great place and would be shame to lose this cache.

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###**CACHE OWNER ACTION REQUIRED PLEASE**###

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I notice from one or more log entries that this cache would seem to be in need of some help - **there appears to be a need for owner intervention.**

Therefore, the cache is being temporarily disabling so as to stop it showing up on search lists and to give the owner an opportunity to check on the cache, and take whatever action is necessary.

The guidelines indicated that periodic visits to check on the cache, as well as prompt attention to any logs that indicate there is a problem, are part of the [**cache owners responsibilities.**](https://www.geocaching.com/play/guidelines#listingmaintenance) I cannot see any log that indicates a recent visit by the CO to this cache.

If you can't attend to the issue promptly, then you need to [**Disable it**](https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=38&pgid=235) - I have Disabled it for you this time.

**Can you please respond to this situation (or indicated your intention) by **27th September,** so others know exactly what is happening with this cache?

You have lots of choices so pick the one that applies from this handy list:

- Repair and/or Replace your cache or do whatever else is needed, post an [**Owner Maintenance log**](http://support.groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=404) and [**ENABLE your cache.**](https://support.groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=235 ) Then sit back and wait for the praises.

- If you don't plan on fixing it up then please [**Archive it**](https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=38&pgid=56) so it is removed from searches and someone else can have the spot. Don't forget to remove any remnants of your previously enjoyed cache too.

- If you really hope to get it fixed but there is some unusual reason why you can't do it soon, then at least post a Write Note log (by 27th September). Be sure to indicate the actual date that you expect to have it fixed so that everyone knows you are on top of it.

You might wonder what happens if you don't pick one of those. Well, if nothing happens, then a few weeks from today, when I next look at the cache page, it is likely that I will unfortunately have to de-list (Archive) the cache on the basis that it has been abandoned.

Honestly, I'd rather you decide so please do something before then. Please don't send me an email but instead follow the information/advice posted above.
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TFTC. Coords were off on the Garmin by about 15m! Easy enough walk to the cache after parking at the picnic spot.

Needs a new container please. There’s a hole in the lid so placed back top down to minimise water logging however some swaps may drop out. Care has been taken to replace carefully.

Had a long three days of caching with a total of 2054 km done! Enjoyed every minute of it despite some dissapointments as well. Most caches I found were really nice and in good condition, thanks to all the CO for putting them out there! Trip Kiama-down the Hume to Albury/Wodonga-Along the Murray to Cobram-back to NSW and via Hay to Ivanhoe=back down to Griffith-Temora-Yass and home. Great adventure to drive out here!
TFTC Wilbert67

It was quite an adventure driving on some deeply rutted tracks trying to find the picnic area. I made the wrong decision after entering the forest which meant some challenging driving in my campervan and had to retrace my route to begin again. Once at the picnic area I began a pleasant walk to the cache which I found 13m from where the technology thought it should be Lid broken, but replaced upside down to protect it from water Continued my walking up into Cocopara NP to the second lookout. Unfortunately time prevented me from continuing to the summit TFTC mallechick. A fav point for this one

Great !

Came out here to walk up to the top of Mt Brogden - beautiful clear winters day and the views were superb. We should have come out the way we came in from the Whitton Stock route but we decided to go back to Binya and almost got ourselves hopelessly lost - finally found a road out - definitely needed a 4WD. Don't trust the NPWS map it is very poor.
The lid is cracked but the previous cacher turned the cache upside down, and we did the same and covered it well to stop the rain getting in.
TFTC. 2BluFish

Hi, found your geocache, but wanted to make you aware that there is a hole in the Goulburn valley container. I think it was simply sun damaged and cracked. I put it in a blue bag to protect it from any rain (as I was unaware of what geocaching was until I found your item).

Tftc

Great spot for a cache. Continued on to the top of the mountain. View well worth the walk. TFTC

Found this one whilst visiting Griffith for the V8 Superboats.
I'm glad that I have a 4WD xD but it was fun to get here and not very hard. Weather was dry and now I'm on my way to the summit

TFTC, Mark

Couldn't find it in the beginning. Thanks to the log of previous cachers we widened the search and found the cache approx. 15 m offset.
Nice spot. The walk to Mt. Brogden is wonderful.

Great walk to Mt top and wonderful views , looked for cache on way back . Good find , thanks

Thanks malleechick

1518. Found with Relish64 on our Narrandera-Ardlethan-Griffith-Darlington Point road trip. The trip in turned into quite an adventure with the maps on the GPSr not really helping much at all. The trip out wasnt much different. We didnt get bogged though and after a short stroll we arrived at GZ. We then had to widen our search a little, but nabbed it in the end........... TFTC.

Do not go near this cache at the moment we got bogged and then the police got bogged as well to dangerous even for a 4wd

[:(!] While staying with my geoson and his geofamily in Griffith before heading off to the Oz Mega Event in Albury I had a couple of hours to fill in so I hopped in the geocar and head towards GZ, so I was able to take the geocar to within 700 meters of GZ, parked the geocar and walked to GZ, on arrival at GZ I wondered around for several minutes waiting for the GPS to settle and I spotted an obvious spot which in turn it was before the GPS had settled and finally I had the cache in hand. TNLNSL TFTC/TFTH

A bit of an adventure drive to the car park but once there, the cache was fairly easy. I am pleased that the new AWD Territory handled the tracks with ease. However I would recommend to others that you take the same road out as in ie from the west. A carefully driven 2WD could still make the trip provided it is not too wet. I had an old map of the Cocoparra NP and it showed the shortest way out to the east. This was not a good track. I got lost a few times and got onto Stoney Rd (well named) and took some very careful negotiating to avoid any damage. Didn't make the trip to the top this time as it was very hot and we were not really set up for a long climb. I'll leave this one for a nice day in winter as the location is historically significant. Thanks aggysaunt and cheers.

Thought Id knock this one off on the way back from Garoolgan, found some random entrance to the forrest along burley griffin way and started to follow my nose. I ended up on the trolley track which conveniently points straight to the GZ...but it sure isnt anything even near a convenient road! I almost gave up on some of the steeper bits, the Geobike (a GS500) is NOT the ideal transport to get in from this side!!! Eventually, i picked my way through the firetrails and found the back entrance to the GZ and started doing the GPS dance. Found it in due course, TNSL. TFTC and the adventure!

This cache kept me and the birdwatchers happy TFTC

Well this cache is a bit of an adventure! Found the road in OK, and managed to negotiate the tracks in to find the "car park" for the walk up. I was kind of expecting the cache to be at the summit, so was a little disappointed that it was only a short walk from the road in. No problems, I found the cache still in good shape, took small bag and left comb. Then at 5:30pm decided to attempt the climb with only about 45 mins until sunset. It's a great walk in, saw lots of kangaroos, wallabies, quail and goats! I didn't know goats were native animals! Fantastic view at the top, went right up to the cairn and watched the sunset, then found my way back down in the fading light. The hard part was negotiating the maze of little forest roads to get out. I started following Binya but this was going the wrong way so eventually went back on Parakeet and a couple of other roads, managed to avoid the kangaroos and back out on the highway. For the record the whole thing took about an hour and a half including the drive in and out so it's definitely not a two hour walk. Thanks aggysaunt for a very entertaining cache adventure.

JUST ABOUT A DRIVEBY IN THE COMMODORE IF YOU TAKE IT EASY. DON'T ATTEMPT IN A 2WD IN WET WEATHER. WATCH FOR SPIDERS. TOOK A BIT FOR THE GPS TO SETTLE. TFTC

Found by Greg 1540H 05/01/11. TNLN TFTC

I awoke to a frosty morning at my campsite to the south of the highway.
Eventually the ice on the geomobile melted enough to let me see through the windshield
So it was a quick drive along the highway to find the way into the other half of the Binya State Forest.
It was just as muddy over this side.
The Binya Forest Drive was just too muddy and I ended up on the Trolley Track which seemed to point the right way.
A sign popped up pointing to Binya Lookout.
That had to be where GZ was I thought

I parked the geomobile still some 1.5kms south of GZ and headed up the track to the lookout.
A small parking lot, not much used these days, appeared and a termite ridden sign pointed the way.
From the lookout, or what I assume was the lookout, there were superb views east and west across the flatness

A much bigger hill blocked the views to the north [:o]
Oh!! So that's Mt Brogden !!
I still had 500metres to go to GZ and enjoyed immensely the early morning amble along the ridgline and down into the saddle below.

Nearing GZ I could hear the emus booming to each other.
A few skippies hopped away too.
At last the GPS said 10 metres to go and right over there was an easy to spot hidey hole with a cache inside
Thanks for a great caching diversion and excellent stroll [^]

1185 Found by baby&Mrs gopher as number 2 for the weekend trip out west at 1140.If you find the right track in it is nearly a driveby.Only 1 group on the walking track this morning.SL visited coins.Tnx aggysaunt

[This entry was edited by baby&Mrs gopher on Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 11:35:55 PM.]

Found by my youngest daughter. I was way off target. Still it took us a while.
Took nothing.Left nothing.
We camped in the park the night before and walked up the hill after
we found the cache. It is a great view. Well worth the effort.
Pixieb.

My first find and it took me 3 tries but finally i found it with a little help and even though i came within metres of it all three times without realising it i still had fun finding it.

[This entry was edited by tomfarrugia02 on Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 7:13:27 PM.]

Easy, first place I looked I found it. Nice walking track though.

18th and last for the day. Finally made my way here after a good day of caching in the Narrandera, Leeton, Griffith area. Picked out a camp spot on the way up to the cache right on dusk, and after finding it, made my way back to the flagged spot and set up camp. Don't know if you are allowed to camp in this park, but i am assuming so.

Set up camp, had dinner and a few drinks, including a 2001 red. Sat back in my deck chair and reflected on a great day of caching and observed the stars for a few hours. Fantastic stuff.

Cache found pretty easily, but technically was a night cache due to the fact i had a torch the whole time... Got there though.

I've been trying to find an opportunity to get to this cache ever since it was hidden...But time restrictions and vehicle issues had stopped it happening. With 2 other new caches just down the railway line, It was great to get out for a Sunday drive.

Working my way in wasnt too much of a problem with the map and GPS, but I made an error in judgement when I decided to just keep following the track and look for a different way out instead of turning around and going back the way I came. In the end it worked out OK, it just took a little longer to escape the forest than expected... At least an easy find at GZ saved some time!

I dont think i'd been through this bit of forest before, so I was great to have a look at what was around. I may well return for a look at the top of Mt Brogden one day, perhaps there's an opportunity for a cache at the top as well!

Thanks for another MIA cache,
TNLN, Cheers,
Murf.

Mungo Trip 4. Tomtom took me the long way through the forest, it always seems to be missing a key track. There was not as much walking for this one as expected, and I could have got closer if I had tried a bit. Just as I climbed back in the car it started to bucket down rain. A bit of a change from 44deg yesterday ! Thanks.

2888.8 Tk CITO GC
Visited: World Traveling Gold GC A#6 & 12 Days of Caching 2008 Gold A#120

Albida

Found 13:50, forest was very dry with conifers in distress and very little ground cover growing. Was amazed that the trails in the forest were in the Tom Tom and it led me straight to the parking area. Easy walk to GZ. Took karabiner and left tape and geo-coin. Thanks.

We found it. The Wee Gits very excited to have their first FTF. Thanks for the location. The walk was a good way to stretch the legs before the drive back to Gosford.

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