Flat Earth Geometry: Reflection Kensington, New South Wales, Australia
By Lonely_Rooster on 27-May-12. Waypoint GC3MB54

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TFTC!And thanks CO for being extremely patient with me as I dont particularly have the exact coordinates but just a general vicinity guess of GZ and CO keep supporting me until I am able to find the cache!

Did the annual round of cache-checks and can report FEG: Reflection is in good shape and waiting for its next visitors.Happy geo-2024!

What a fun traipse around my old Alma Mater! Out here collecting caches to quality for a challenge cache in the shire involving finding caches in all the neighbouring LGAs which I though was a great excuse to come back to my old campus ^_^

Found the cache and replaced as found; TFTC!

Wow really liked the final stage for getting the cache coords, and the hiding spot was pretty tricky too.
TFTC

An amazing adventure with good multi style puzzles and an intuitive maths puzzle!! I loved the final container and spot, very strong magnets! TFTC!! Fav from me!

Just completed my annual cache-check circuit and can confirm FEG: Reflection is in good order.
Happy Caching 2023!

#11585 10:05
An airport pickup at 1pm, so I am taking the opportunity to find a few caches in an area I rarely visit. An interesting puzzle that brought back memories from the school years.
Today for the find which, upon reflection, was easier than the puzzle.
TFTC.

Took me a while but with a bit of persistence, teamwork and geometry eventually found! Super cool tftc!!

Happy New Year, fellow cachers! And may 2022 bring lots of fun and interesting caches (and none of those frustrating DNFs) your way.
Just completed my "annual cache check".
Happy to replort FEG: Reflection is present and in good order.
Cache well!
LR

Finally!!! This has been a nemesis cache of mine for a while. I did the initial legwork in Feb 2020 when I did a lot of other traditional caches nearby. That paperwork got revisited a couple of times during lockdown as I tried to find a good tool to use to get the final. I ended up using a more traditional method and was happily rewarded with the cache. I was lucky to have GZ pretty much to myself. I’m trying to work my way through all of the nearby caches where I have a post-it with half a solution on it. Thanks LR for placing your caches - they are always enjoyable and well cared for. TFTC

An interesting exercise around the institution that I attended oh so many years ago and is very different to what is there today.
A quick find late at night/early morning. Gets a favourite
SL TFTC

So happy to figure this one out without any assistance from the CO!
For those trying to read the window, it can be done quite easily from the other side of the glass.
Took me some time in the car after figuring out the opposite of WP3 to work out exactly what the coordinates were. Took me more than some time actually but when I did the checker have me a green light on the first attempt. YEAH!!
Off to the GZ to hunt high and low for the cache which was both high and low. Expertly hidden and in great shape.
Thanks LR for the cache. Posting a pic. Hope it doesn't have any spoilers.

Couldn’t find it on the first try and got some help from CO. Realised what the hint meant after leaving GZ on the second try. Saw the cache on my third try, but alas I’m too short and get vertigo easily. Brought along the other half of Natamike who has the height and long limbs to reach for the cache, and finally found it on my fourth try! TFTC!

Heck, it's another year already. Seems geocaching is yet another casualty of COVID-19; with so little geo-action.
Anyway ... did my annual run of cache checks and happy to confirm all caches (other than Give a Fig which I didn't check on as it was too wet and slippery to attempt a tree climb - will have to check when it's sunny/dry) present and accounted for.
Wishing everyone a (back to normal), fun and safe geo-2021.

I was out and about on the bike picking up clues for various caches so I could take them back to my desk and figure them all out. Got the clues but fundamentally took the wrong direction, perhaps I was getting reflection and refraction confused so I reached out to CO and they set me straight... *facepalm* after that it was off to GZ whilst also on a run looking for some hill repeats in the area. Got to GZ and looked up, down, round and around and was empty handed for quite some time. Argh, probably searched every area and after about 25 mins, and 8 Hill repeats still pending, I thought I’d better get going...but ...what if......oh dang! There it is! Well who’d have thought it. With many more LR caches to solve and find, I’ll be keeping this in my memory banks to understand this CO’s MO thanks LR a fab point from me

Guessing the location was not good enough, so we had to go back after some calculations

1st of Jan already! So another round of annual maintenance checks on the caches.
Present and accounted for - check!
Log and contents in good order - check!
Happy geo-2020!

I got stuck with WP1 because the trees have grown over the window in question, and it was dark, and even in daylight I wouldn't want to clamber into the bushes with all the muggles about. I looked back to 2013 on googlemaps street view and can see the correct window...but can't quite make out the lettering. I might have to reach out to the CO for the answer to WP1 as I'd like to head back to this area to attempt 'night rider' as well.

Arrived before Christmas and walked through the waypoints and had a rough idea on where it would be. As time ticked away I needed to be elsewhere, so departed for the Christmas break.
Had all intentions to complete as I’d screenshot and drew out a GZ, I had a very accurate GZ that the checker didn’t like.
Knowing I had plans to go for a look on my first day back from holidays, had spoken to Brew regarding this one, had another go at the checker with another crack at my same map and it worked within 5m the checker informs me.
Had CIH quickly at GZ, FP from me and thanks Lonely_Rooster

Having solved FEG:Rotation before Christmas, I set my sights on a few more LR puzzles near UNSW. A message from Martin Cousins revealed that he was onto this one too. So in cahoots we worked on it, sharing our progress over a few weeks. I tried to use a Toolbox this time, instead of grid paper and as a result my flat earth geometry was actually curved. But I still came up with a plausible GZ. A message to the CO confirmed I was very close indeed.

Finally we were able to get the checker to tell us we were in 5m (or was it 4 and a half?) of GZ. So we arranged an afternoon meetup and using the hint, we were able to sight, snatch and stamp our names onto the log book in quick time, without any muggle interruption. Then off for a coffee to celebrate!

I'm really enjoying the variety of LR puzzles. They test me known knowledge, which needs to be more flexible I have discovered, and help me to think outside the grid! And my clearance of the southern part of the ES is complete - until the next hide! Definitely worth a FP from Brew. TFTC

This afternoon I found myself walking around the UNSW with frazeydaze checking two of the CO's caches that had been recommended to us by morty8888. The caches being, "Night Rider" and "Flat Earth Geometry: Reflection", and whilst I had previously considered attempting the "Night Rider" I was always a bit wary of wandering around the grounds of a university at night. As for FEG:R, the name was enough to scare me off knowing how involved the CO's caches were.
After completing the calcs for "Night Rider" we decided to make a start on FEG:R. S. Boy did we get ourselves into a mess with this one. Starting off with the bikes we both agreed with the three required numbers and used them to calculate the northern coords for WP2. Good start. Taking the advice in the description we crossed Anzac Pde to check out the "furthest bottom-left glass pane" which we were unable to see from across the road. Frazeydaze did the honours and crawled in behind the trees and called out the numbers. Wow. We must have looked at the wrong pane as our numbers were way too big. What to do. Let’s add them together. We did and got a reasonable looking WP3 which we headed off towards, however, when we arrived there was no building with "nine marble-looking granite slabs". Time to PAF who pointed our mistake with that etched pane glass window. OK we re- calculated WP3 and arrived at the correct building which we had previously walked past earlier. Here we failed to carefully read the CO's instructions and again got ourselves into a mess. Time to PAF (same friend) who fortunately has a lot of patience, and who again pointed out our mistake. Again, back on track we were able to calculate a GZ and headed off in that direction and found what we thought was platform 4 1/2, however, while searching we interrupted by security and called off our search and decided to seek our prize for the "Night Rider" cache. Whist there our PAF phoned us to check on our progress. We related our progress and were advised we were searching in the correct location. Great, back to GZ where a quick search resulted with CIH. Woohoo. Off to "Arthur's Pizza" at the beach for a well-earned pizza. Thanks, LR for another very well constructed cache, I only wish we could have solved it without resorting to PAF. Another worthy fav point is awarded.

Afternoon wander around The Univeristy of New South Wales with oldmorty, hoping to find the Night Rider and the Flat Earth Geometry: Reflection, mystery caches.
Not being able to grab Night Rider for a while, oldmorty and I returned to the UNSW campus to find the required information to find this cache.
The answers to A, C and E were straight forward, but trying to get a good view of the "furthest bottom-left glass pane facing the main road" was very difficult. We thought we'd found the correct pane of glass, but maybe not. Our calculations put us about a building and a half from where we should have been. To confirm our calculations, we had to PAF. Their co-ords put us in the right spot, but I still don’t know how these co-ords were arrived at using the window pane we'd found.
Anyway, that wasn’t the only problem.
We hadn’t read the directions correctly either, and took in the "WHOLE" 9 granite slabs when calculating the next WP. What a mess we got ourselves into. You know that PAF, well we had to ring again. How embarrassing.
Now, with the correct information we calculated WP3 and went off in search of GZ.
Oldmorty and I found ourselves at platform 4 ½ and began a search, but we were interrupted by the sound of someone approaching. It was a security guard. He mentioned something about accessing the area another way. We said, "thank you, we'll keep that in mind" and walked away empty-handed. Maybe this isn't GZ?
We then left to go grab Night Rider.
On our way home we drove past GZ. We couldn't let it go. Oldmorty and I decided that if we got confirmation that we had been in the right place, we would go back for a more thorough search, if we were wrong we would go home and work our way through the calculations again. Confirmation that we had been in the correct location was received, so we returned to search. Oldmorty spotted it first and I retrieved it. Thank heavens.
We made such a hash of this mystery. But, in the end we found the cache and ended up with a smiley face each. And I got to walk around the university, a place I’d not been before. TFTC Lonely_Rooster, a favourite point from me.
(PS - I believe there may be another pane which we did not see)

Did the annual check of this cache. All appears to be in order.
May 2019 be your caching-est yet!

After visiting yesterday, wandering around feeling like I belonged on campus, gathering and plotting, I had a quick search at GZ but time ran out. Today I realised what the hint meant and soon spied the cache, retrieved and signed. I started my reflection and decided another FP for a well thought out adventure was in order. TFTC!

Almost gave up on this one. Walked by the cache several times and didn't see it because it was so well camouflaged!
Really enjoyed the puzzles along the way.

Did the annual rounds of caches to check they are all present-and-accounted for.
Container cleaned. Pencil sharpened.
Have the caching-est 2018.

Lonely Rooster you are a genius. Definitely stretched my problem solving!! Fantastic puzzle and great cache location!! 100% deserving of the favorite point! TFTC

Took a slight deviation on my way to work today to have a look at a few previously solved mystery caches around Randwick, and also a new multi cache at Monterey. This was the 1st of 4 finds for today.

I started this one a month ago, visiting WP1 on 22/02/2017, but had trouble reading part of the required info due to some rampant vegetation. After the CO kindly supplied me with that hidden WP1 info I was then able to visit WP2, about two weeks ago on 11/03/2017, stopping off on my way home after a night shift to gather the remaining info. And after “reflecting” on all of the information I soon had some possible final GZ numbers at hand, which were later confirmed to be correct by the CO (the evince geochecker still being offline).

Fast forward to today and it was time for a visit to final GZ for a look. Managed to snare a parking spot close to GZ, and then wandered down to the place of interest. As it turned out the GPSr wasn’t so useful in this area, and totally useless at GZ, but guided by the very helpful hint I soon spotted the sneaky hide and had CIH. TNLNSL, and then replaced as found.

Thanks Lonely_Rooster for the interesting puzzle and cache, worthy of a Favourite point from us.

Find #1611

I mentioned before, it is the Year of the Rosster so I just have to find all the CO's caches. Plus today is pi day, you know 3.14 in the American format so it is appropriate to find a mathematical cache.

I did all the lead up work last week, the first waypoint was a bit of a guestimate as the shrubbery has overgrown the window concerned, but I managed to guess it right. Finding the second waypoint and calculating the third waypoint went smoothly. But when I got home and calculated GZ it became apparent that I had made a substantial error, instead of calculating where my reflection would have been I sort did a weird calculation that didn't make sense.

But I couldn't realise this on my own as Evince was down so I sent my result to the CO who kindly sent me a video clip to explain the correct procedure. Ah all became apparent. I followed his advice and came up with some new co-ords which were a few metres off so I was given a direction to look in. As I reflected on this new information, all became clear.

Today I was back at the uni to continue my caching and extend my streak to 80 days! Thanks for a great cache and hide - fav point added.

half solved this one the week vefore but then my battery ran out. Came back the next week to conquer this bad boy. good puzzle, interesting final solution and hide. Thanks. have a favourite

Did the rounds of my caches to check they are presentable (and still present!) for a new geocaching year.
All in good order on Reflection.
Have a fun and successful geo-2017 everyone!

I calculated the coordinates but there I found nothing corresponding to the hint. After a few days I tried to verify my coordinates and surprisingly, they were correct. So I returned to the place and after some effort I really found the cache.

Being a Lonely Rooster cache, the actual find was very quick, surprisingly for me. Calculating the coords wasn't too drastic

First puzzle cache I found, and the last one on campus! It's not hard for me to find out all the clues, but it is hard to find the reflection coordinate. I tried to solve it using AutoCAD but the evince always said no. But I guess it should be around that area. I asked raindoctor and misspalot, they gave me some hints and I went there, unfortunately there were a couple standing close by and didn't tend to leave at all so I went back. Finally in the evening raindoctor and misspalot took me to the cache and got it! A little bit stretched my arm. Nice hiding! Thanks for helping me love, and thanks for the cache!

I could probably figure the math out/find appropriate equations online, but not knowing how to properly use gps coordinates in it stopped me from bothering. Luckily I could draw lines on a map and approximate, so I had a look along the line of the mirror in case it was literally where you'd see your reflection to be, but there wasn't much there to fit the clue. Will have a look at the approximate area behind the mirror some other time.

FINALLY!!! Apparently I was absent the day they taught us this in school I needed a crash course in geometry! There was a neglected little traveler that I picked up to join my crew.

Very creative cache on a great tour through UNSW. I highly recommended to visitors!

Came past while kids were at Allday. Found WP1/WP2 and then at WP3 (GZ) co-ords must have been off, as after 10min, I couldn't work out what or where I was looking for. Next time.

Easy once you find the reflection! nice cache!

Trying to solve this puzzle had me lost for quite some time and after several visits without any results, I decided to contact the CO. Well I must say, the Lonely Rooster was extremely helpful in explaining the method for which I could get to the final "Reflection". I had actually been standing in the center of the mirror thinking that was where I should be looking for GZ but I was well off the mark. After printing the local map and following the CO's guide, it made so much sense where GZ actually turned out to be and after PAF for final confirmation the cache was finally found. Well done Lonely Rooster for a great puzzle, great cache camo and willingness to assist, a favorite point awarded from me and TFTC

Found with Snickersallan, after several fruitless attempts. After having a small break from hanging around the uni, and after some much needed guidance and assistance, we finally hit the jackpot.

I'd collected a few numerical facts on an earlier visit and took them home to await a spare moment. It came and I wrote down some equations, that I hoped described properly the challenge, and plugged in the numbers. Fortunately the pedant within Evince agreed. After doing a GE check, I read the hint knowing one dimension could be problematic otherwise. Within the last few meters, it all made sense. GZ was surprisingly deserted, considering all the activity in the immediate surrounds. Thanks Lonely Rooster

Two weeks ago all three WP's were identified but couldn't work out where GZ was so came back again last Fri and still left empty handed. After seeking advice and an extra hint from the CO I thought today was my lucky day, geo checker nearly exploded and locked me out so once again this puzzle has me lost. Ah well, I'll keep trying and may come back on a weekend to concentrate more when it's no so busy.

Like most Lonely Rooster caches, this one posed quite the challenge for me.

Maths is not my strong suit, so as usual I looked for another way that didn't involve equations.

I came up with a rough idea on the location but was muggled out by workmen and many, many visitors to the Uni.

I dropped a line to Lonely Rooster asking him to confirm that I was on the right track, he advised that I wasn't far off and told me to use the hint when I got there.

Today I headed back armed with my hint and made the grab "Mr Tickle" style

Another excellent puzzle, hide and challenge

TFTC - fav point awarded

Returned to this one with rainbowstar2, nearly about a week after! With a confirmed location, and a hint from a PAF, we dove in between the constant stream of muggles, and made a stealthy retrieval and return. An enjoyable cache, with a nice puzzle. TFTC, Lonely_Rooster!

We had a bit of time on our hands after being at uni for most of the day, so finally decided to give this one a crack to burn off some lunch-time energy! There weren't too many issues up to WP3, but then the hard bit troubled us. After some false calculations, incorrect assumptions and a call to the CO and previous finder, we realised our mistakes and found a reasonable GZ (but forgot to check the coordinates!). However, we were in a rush and did not make a thorough search, and couldn't find it.

Now, though, upon returning home and some more accurate coordinates, our suspected GZ has been confirmed. A bit of a nuisance, but some encouragement! We'll be back soon

TFTC Found it myself after my Geodad solved the puzzle and found it himself the other day. He gave me the GZ coordinates and the Hint, and I found it, signed the log, then we went to Maccas to have afternoon tea and watch the tennis!

Found it at last! I collected all the data and calculated WPs 2 & 3 and used various methods to determine GZ but Evince said No! Even after confirming I had WP1, 2 & 3 correct Evince said my value for GZ was not close enough! I redrew a graph very carefully, read off GZ and Evince said Yes! Went tby onight after dinner out at Coogee, couldn't resist stopping, found it very quickly. This is my 150th GC found - Happy Australia Day!! TFTC

Quick find after dropping wife at airport got miscalculation wp 3 which require another visit and recount the rest was easy I will take photos next time enjoy the challenge have fav pt TFTC

#862

October 12, 2014 4:44pm
Log may be signed as ADI (short for AlphaDeltaIndigo)

Pk had solved this one but he still took me out to find the wps... surprisingly the car was parked just outside gz! Very intelligent of pk!
Nice camo there!
TFTC Lonely_Rooster

Current streak: 125
Cache no: 1184

Came here today to do my one.. Found WP 2 & 3. Did a couple of quick calculations and head to gz. No one here on a Saturday afternoon so it was a painless find. TFTC

Visited the University today and found the cache after collecting the information for the final. TFTC !

Just had the unhappy experience to delete/archive an entry as logger did/could not provide sufficient information to prove a find.

If you are caught without a writing implement, there is a pencil in the cache (since day one of publication). Or, for alternative proof-of-find, send me (do not post here) an image of the cache.

Happy caching.

Yep lonely_Rooster been on the spot no need of maintenance everything looking fine due to the fact that it was pencil I didn't sign. Maybe in the future if I'll be around ill sign it with my pen (if I find it as someone borrowed it and didn't hand it back yet). Thanks buddy
Enjoy

Not many people around today, nice and clear spot were to hide a cache must be easy to spot stars from here.....heee not signing in because forgot pen on the table.

After I filled an A4 sheet with trigonometry a few days ago, it was satisfying to grab the very sneaky cache today. It may be a while before Felix the spy is up to the mathematics. Thanks for the cache!

11/02/14. 6:59 AM. Cache #1336. Using all the waypoints that I'd found a few days ago, I tried a crude solution method at home the other night, involving Google Earth and its in-built ruler tool. This got me a result that Evince said was close enough (within the range). Came by UNSW today for a pre-morning cache and made the find in a very sneaky spot. (Luckily no muggles about!). For a very different puzzle and hide, have a fave point. On to Logical NOR next. TFTC }:)

2/02/14. 9:15 AM. My 2nd DNF for the day after finding 6 caches this morning, mostly around Randwick council, and mostly new ones. (My other DNF was Agistment Adjustment). Actually, I'd call this a NS - Did Not Solve. Easily made it through the questions at WPs 1 & 2, started heading for WP3 when I realised I didn't need to go there, just use it as part of a calculation. Sat down at a nearby table and on the little scrap of paper I'd been using, I started to figure something out. I soon realised I'd need better resources from home to work this one out properly; didn't feel like a field puzzle to me somehow. So called it a morning and headed for home. I shall be back.

We are doing this cache very gradually. Just writing a note so that we remember our visits. Our first time was in June 2013 when we collected the information for WP2. Today we made it back and collected info for WP3. Really enjoyed the location of WP2 and all the surrounding buildings. So modern but not lacking in character or detail and plenty of nooks and crannies to spend a bit of study time. Not sure when the next visit will be but we're enjoying stretching it out. Cheers... Gaztek

I can't recall the last time I attempted a cache 3 times in one day! My morning stroll over the Uni grounds was very pleasant and I gathered the requested info quit easily. Even if counting has set me on a wrong trail before. Back at the hospital I had time to look over the info and understood exactly what was asked, just didn't have the means to do the calculations. Took the nearest possible coords for GZ and send out an email to the CO. He fortunately replied very quick, thanks, so I headed out again and soon found a place that made sence regarding the clue. However the search was quickly interupted by security (don't know were they came from?). Back home (hospital), another mail and back to GZ in the dark. This time nobody around and a quit quick find.
Really fun doing this one and I am still picturing myself in the ginormous mirror!!
TFTC Wilbert67

UNSW FRESHERZ: George, John, Lucas, Owen. Found the correct coordinates two weeks ago while the cache was out of order and visited it in person today. Good refresher of first year linear algebra! TFTC TNLN

Visited today with the rest of the fresh team. Thanks for the cache!

Looks like the coast is clear again and the cache isn't under threat of maintenance-person muggling.
So it's back ... happy caching.

The area around GZ has been cordoned off. Looks like a UNSW crew is doing some serious renovations? (Hope I don't have to change the camo )
In the mean time, I've removed the cache in case it gets confused with rubble by the work crew.
ETA about 8-10 days.
Sincerest apologies if you are planning on a visit this week.

What a fun puzzle cache that took two attempts, sent skyeho and I walking up and down campus (even used the phone camera so that we wouldn't have to cross the road to count one of the clues) and had us poking around GZ for a good thirty minutes the first time with no luck. After some thought on the hint, we confirmed the location with the ever helpful raindoctor. The well camouflaged cache sure had me squinting and tilting my head at awkward angles to confirm its placement. Thank you skyeho for the verbal instructions when replacing the cache, hooray for team work!

Thanks lonely_rooster for such a well planned and enjoyable cache that's sure to stand the test of time and muggles!

It was so much fun, and with Misspalot, so much exercise...Realising there are ways to calculate the coordinate of GZ, straight forward or round and about methods...Checked my coordinate, got it approved, yet, it eluded me that i should actually use it...TFTC

finally, this one was bugging me so much that I spent about 4 hours on it. turns out that my calculations were on the wrong side of the road. At gz I had an encounter with security who were checking peoples cars. all I can say is this cache is well thought out, well set up and totally worth the effort. TFTC SL TNLN

Amazing cache! Finally found it after a 5pm lecture - definitely easier at night. Dropped off a trackable. Tftc!

Had this blue blob annoying me for a while. struggled with the final math. Tried with a very old and inaccurate map of the uni no dice. Tried again today with a newer map some origami folding. got approximate position and my geo senses were tingling. Using basic logic and the clue with acouple of false spots had Cih sl tnln. Tftc


This entry was edited by gullightly on Wednesday, 24 April 2013 at 08:21:37 UTC.

even after plotting the way points and drawing some lines, the perpendicular intersection did not reveal a cache. is GZ on the virtual line between wp1 and wp2 or behind it?

This entry was edited by jayden.streatfeild on Sunday, 24 March 2013 at 08:16:59 UTC.

Was a difficult find. Found on the second attempt though. Was looking in the right area, but the cache, having good camo was hard to see. Learnt a good lesson though!

Well, it looks like the maintenance crew has finished, and removed the cordon, even.
So the coast is probably clear for this cache to be re-enabled.
Have fun.

Ther is some maintenance work happening in and around GZ so the cache cannot be reached safely at the moment.

Nice mystery cache! Took a while to find...

Found my way through the way points and clues but couldnt find the cache. Ran out of time and had to fly back to WA. Pretty sure I was in the right area but will try again if I make it back over later in the year. cheers
Bootswania

Given how long it has been since this cache has been found, I've moved some of the 'stuck' travel bugs and tags on. Figured they have had enough (self) reflections.

Got there in the end. Not sure whether we had a coordinate wrong or (more likely) my vector geometry was wrong but I now know my calcs were something like 30 metres out! Never mind, it was getting late, and we had to make a find. Three hours later after we started my mate stumbled up on it, rather than us being clever enough to decipher the clue. In hindsight everything is easier though.

A really well thought out cache. Good camouflage and clue, and really helpful notes on the logs. Lonely_Rooster - I commend you on a cache well hidden and maintained!

Find#1700!
What an amazing journey this cache has taken me on!
The adventure began last week when I arrived at UNSW to solve the puzzle to determine where the 3 WPs were. Running around UNSW on a cold evening I wasn't disturbed searching for the information that I required, Having found the 3 wps I became stuck. I contacted Lonely Rooster several times asking for assistance as I couldn't quite get my head around the concept. I tried several different approaches but all put in me an incorrect location.
This evening I emailed Lonely Rooster to let him know I was going to attempt to find the cache, He decided to happily meet me near a WP to further explain the solving process. Armed with a map and a few tools he simplified the process and I was able to discover the location of GZ!
I really dislike puzzles however this one was quite enjoyable!
I'm extremely happy to finally be able to tick this one off the list and I look forward to future Lonely Rooster caches
Cheers
-H54

Well-deserved find, Holyman54 ... 11/10 for perseverance.
(Not to mention the brief meeting with Campus Security

Spent an hour strolling around, found all the waypoints but still have no idea how to calculate the location of the cache. I don't even know the keywords I'd use to start looking for information. Perhaps a link to a suitable maths / GPS calculation theory ... site thing is in order?

I assume the evince is for final location calculation checking? It didn't confirm for any of the waypoints.

Hey Kunama, see your email message as well.

In addition, it is possible to 'calculate' GZ without maths by using a graphical approach.
Print out a map (or even directly on a largish screen tablet like an iPad) of the area with the WPs marked in, then draw some lines.
This can get you close enough for the hint to start making sense.

The 'rules' of reflection:

- the point created by reflection (image) is the same distance from the surface of the mirror as the point being reflected (object).
- image and object points are on opposite sides of the mirror.
- line joining object and image is at right angle to the mirror.

Happy caching.

This entry was edited by Lonely_Rooster on Saturday, 08 September 2012 at 08:07:47 UTC.

Good times! I was a bit rusty on the maths at first but got there in the end. TFTC!

Found @ 11:00 with AmethystPig on a trip to the UNSW campus to partake in my MBT graduation ceremony. I was planning to give this a go last night after the ceremony but it had been a big day so left it for today. We walked down to have a late breakfast nearby and then strolled through campus gathering info. A little jiggery-pokery with numbers and a rough location was obtained. When we got to the area a more likely region murmured sweet nothings at me. Checking my hunch paid off and piggie made the retrieve. We were so very close to the hide last night, if only I'd had my wits about me then.
Took trackable and cool PCB calling card, left trackable and pathtag, signed log and visited some trackables.
Thanks for the cache lonely_rooster.

Found @ 1100 on a stroll around campus with SirJ-Oz. Given we were both planning on being in Sydney yesterday we decided to take advantage and spend a couple of extra days caching - first stop was UNSW where SirJ picked up his MBT last night. I was along for the ride for this one, as my GPSr decided halfway through that I was actually standing at the hospital- at least I could still be useful gathering info at the various WPs. SirJ worked out the probable GZ and made the find - coincidentally in a location that last night we were jokingly saying would be a good spot for one! Took nothing but dropped off a pathtag to mark my passage, signed the log. Thanks for the cache Lonely_Rooster, and for bringing me to the one spot on earth that someone wandering aimlessly with a phone & notepad can appear completely normal.

This one gets a favourite point as it may well be the first time in (semi-)real life that I've had to apply vector projections! Now I know why I had to do that stuff as a first-year in Uni. Thanks for that little bit of maths revision, and great hide too. Left GC (car).

This is my first ever University find. I normally keep away for them for some reason. I never attended Uni, I don't know how public these places are.. Will security be suspicious of me....
Turns out I pretty much blend in with everyone else even in my tradie gear. Doing the puzzle took me three visits. Visit #1, I gathered the info at WP1, went back to the van to go home and realised WP2 wasn't too far so walked back in. Only to find some sort of tea party going on. Nobody else had fluoro sleeves so I left.
On my 2nd visit WP2 was empty (Friday afternoon) so gathered the required info. Yeah, I think it's granite too.
Now I can have a go at the puzzle and I didn't quite understand it but I did some searches online & thought of butterflies and had 2 good guesses at where the GZ was and decided to do a geo-check with LR who was kind enough to tell me which of my two calculations was closest.
Now tonight with GPSr in hand and Angel1 I got to my GZ. Lots of passing muggles and it was dark and they're thinking "what's that guy and his kid doing here". Had a few ideas but had to think about the clue until an idea hit me. We acted on it and made the find. A well constructed and camoed cache. SL TNLN.

I'm pretty sure my final co-ords were less than 4M out. Pretty good!
TFTC. I think this is how University hides should be. I've been to Uni and learned some maths.

Nothing like quality peer-review. Updated the description at WP2 based on Fimbulisen and Bells Angels' superior geology knowledge. (Should have realised granite is more in keeping with uni budgets

Also an honorary mention that this cache might not have been listed as quickly as I hoped if it wasn't for Bells Angels' advice on how to get around the quirks of the new user interface for new caches.

Brilliant. How could I let this one alone? I work on campus right next to WP1 and the cache name cries out for some pedantry: As I have worked at BOTH poles, I feel that the Flat Earth Society needs more publicity, and the debate about how I came to go round both edges of the earth is probably best left to some maths PhD, preferably researched while drunk. One small quibble: the "marble " slabs look suspiciously like polished granite, but then that's what you get from an institution that claims to teach mining engineering and earth sciences. Great idea, navigation in the fourth dimension. And a perfect hide.
Took Italian phone token and left my calling card No 204. Favourite point.

I had worked through the waypoints last Friday, moving between meetings on campus, but my subtle searches at GZ turned up nothing.

Noticing Team Canary had scored a 2TF on the weekend, I PAF to see where I was going wrong. Turns out my WP calcs were fine; I had just misinterpreted where GZ actually was! Correcting this error, I moved on and immediately spotted a potential GZ (after making use of the hint). My first attempt seemed feasible, but again I turned up nothing. However, there was a second feasible spot nearby and, eventually, this one was right! Getting hands on the cache was no easy matter though...it definitely helps to be tall, and a bit agile!

TNLNSL TFTC, Lonely Rooster - great to have another fine cache here at UNSW! This also gets a FP from me!

CC.

Came back today and had a massive lightbulb moment straight away. Sue enough we soon had the cache in hand!

A favourite just for the hide and a great puzzle.

T: GeoPumpkin Geocoin Two

TFTC.

With no refereeing today I went on a Puzzle Cache Hunt.

I got some information to work out WP2. Then got some more information to calculate WP3. Now, at home I think I have worked out GZ.

I shall retuirn!

Nice and sunny autumn day. Perfect for a little walk on the NSW Campus. Not to many muggles on the campus. But even on a busy working day to solve, find and log this one shouldn't cause any trouble. To release the cache box could be a little tricky if you have short arms! Opening the box around 3:30 pm was surprised that I could claim FTF. In and out TB. TFTC and thx for the Compass Rose Geocoin.

Published

Priming this cache by the addition of two TB's brought back from overseas.