Enigma Guthridge, Victoria, Australia
By Carpo's Crusaders on 31-Jan-10. Waypoint GC23G4X

As there has been no response to the last request/s to attend to this cache, I have no option but to archive this listing on the basis it has been abandoned.

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### **MAINTENANCE REQUIRED?** ###
I notice from one or more recent log entries that **this cache appears to be in need of owner intervention.** Therefore, I am temporarily disabling it so as to stop it showing up on search lists and to give the owner an opportunity to check on the cache, and take whatever action is necessary.

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Owner hasn't been online since Jan last year...

Still bee's everywhere...

Time to go

We had enjoyed the challenge of solving this puzzle. The Enigma machine has been a fascination for many years and puzzles based on this important aspect of cipher history are a great opportunity to get a far better understanding of the machine.

Today we went to look for the cache. We found it, we poked it, BUT we could not retrieve it as it was the centrepiece of a beehive. Yes, bees had moved into GZ and were building their honeycomb around the container. After discovering this situation and the bees, Mr y'stassie retreated as he has a significant reaction to bee strings. Mrs y'stassie went in and confirmed the situation - she got one sting on the nose but does not have any adverse reactions. Our poking and probing certainly made the bees quite aggressive.

We are not sure where the cache owner goes from this point. There are a few maintenance options but none which will help us during this short visit. It is a major disappointment not getting a smiley for this one. We had solved another Enigma puzzle near Mt Gambier but this was archived before we could get there. We got to GZ for this Enigma puzzle, saw the container and poked it but could not retrieve it to sign the log. Ah well - win some lose some BUT we would like to win at least ONE!!!!.

Thanks for the puzzle Carpo's Crusaders and for the hide, It is just a pity that the bees beat us to it.

We are trying to contact Carpo Crusaders with the aim of adopting their caches.

Regards..................

maybe time to up the Difficulty and Terrain rating to 6 out of 5!!

We can finally put a smiley face on this one and am damn proud! Well what a saga and fun this has been! There have been numerous attempts at it's co-ordinates. Twice at a wrong location and once at the right location but too dark too see anything obvious. I saw what I thought was a snake skin in a tree but after coming back out here during the day realised it is indeed a bee's nest and they are active. Fortunately the GZ is not too close. We wouldn't have found this cache without the help of some friendly fellow geo-cachers willing to help.

After solving this a long time ago I was finally in the area. We found the cache but was not able to sign easily as it had been buried buy dirt and tree stuff. After grabbing a pocket knife and screwdriver we spent quite some time digging it out. Sadly no unloved to for me, although it had been over 6 months since the log had been signed, it has been logged online. Oh well
thanks for a great puzzle!

After a having a few goes at cracking the code, the penny finally dropped! Then I had to wait until I was in the area of GZ. Another smiley at last! TNLN TFTC

The puzzle wasn't what we expected it to be, but it was solved in short order - surprising given how few puzzles we actually bother solving these days...appropriate hiding spot that Mr O had conveniently ridden straight past only a week earlier . TFTC.

I have no idea on where to start. I have not seen one of these before!

Update- used the hint and got a way to work out the code but don't know what to do with the numbers I have got now. Seeing stripes before my eyes now and have several useless apps on my phone now too! LOL.
Will keep posting on this one until I get it!

This entry was edited by Stratfordvan on Friday, 17 October 2014 at 08:21:36 UTC.

Wow this was a great cache. Enjoyed doing this one
Thanks Carpo's Crusaders

Finally worked out the Muggle code with a bit of a nudge in the right direction.

I am glad I can put another smiley face on the map.

I am going to give this a Fav point as well. It was a well thought out Puzzle.

TB "Scrat" visited your cache whilst on his Great Aussie Adventure.

TFTC Carpo's Crusaders

Finally got around to doing this one. Probably would have worked it out a lot earlier had we pushed on a bit. Cache is in good condition. TFTC

Omg Acmoose has been puzzling this for ages, and when we tentivly arived at the gz I was encouraged by the building there. The cache was soon in hand and acmoose was jubilant that his research paid off!! TFTC

Wow, great puzzle, had to work it out the hard way! Then it was just just a matter of finding a time to get back here and hoping I was correct! Found with ornursie72

Completed this a few months ago,
just had to wait until in the area,
to confirm the GZ

It was raining at GZ (11.18am)

Love doing this cache
Thanks for the CSC

TFTC SL

Found it! Cracked the code with the help of Coggin1965! Great puzzle TFTC

Solved mainly by josiey, and she also found it without upsetting the bees! Great puzzle.

Noticed this one while looking up unloved caches in the region. Puzzle looked intriguing and I managed to solve it taking a decidedly low tech approach. Enjoyed the puzzle a lot. We were a bit worried about the bees mentioned in the logs. We half thought about coming in the night when the bees would be asleep (having looked up the daily routines of bees), but the trip would have been too long. So we came by on the way home today. Had a careful look where the bees were (with a torch) but really couldn't see anything very cache-like. So I had a look in some non-bee affected area and was jubilant to find the little container. So, other potential finders, no need to be apiphobic. Thanks for a fun cache, I'm giving it a fave point.

Called in here to check out the hide. Hmmmm Bees still here happily doing their thing and I was happy not to upset them Maybe a slightly different GZ is needed. Your on the money dranoweb.

Quite sure I have good coords but the only good hiding.spot here is occupied by a bee's nest. Without the right gear, unlikely to get a good look around. Maybee some maintenance is required.

Layers upon layers... geeze. Pretty sure I have this one nutted out. Shal deposit something special for this one tomorrow if I'm correct.

Maintenance check OK.

Finally decided to attempt this find after Hillbridge and myself got some clarification from Carpo regarding 'How to Read' the 'Code'. Having said that, nothing was going to let me miss one of Carpos caches, 'Bar' one that has been archived.

Thanks for the cache, the code is safe and sound, no spies were detected while retriving the 'Enigma Machine".

Found it at 1500 hrs. Well that turned into an epic. After the muggle code got muddled and then the rest was remuddled I found myself some place that I wasn't ment to be.Haha. After recalculating the GZ co-ords, another trip, this time on the geocycle a quick find was had. Even then it was in the first and last place I looked. TNLN Thanks Carpos' for a great headscratcher cache.

Found at 1709hrs
Amazing how much easier it was to crack the code when you actually have the full code to work with, not part of the code as my work printer thought I needed
Great cache, once had a usable code I soon had the GZ, easy find once there.
TFTC, no swaps today and look forward to more of your caches

Well, this was quite a challenge; the grey matter was glad when eventually the Muggle Code was finally cracked. If this is to be the standard of up and coming similar caches soon in the area, then thinking caps are going to get a serious workout. Many thanks for the words of support from Carpo's Crusaders for this well put together cache.

Finding the cache was the easy part. Signed Log and took the Conspicuous Service Commendation, maybe we should have taken the FTF certificate. It was difficult to see what we had in the dark.
Swapped the Geocoin for the PGA Traveller but I don't how the geocoin is going to get to Monkey Mia by going to the East, it's a long way around in that direction.

Once again many thanks to Carpo's Crusaders.

Reset the muggle code to something a bit more screen friendly...

Dropping off a rather appropriate GC...

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