Who Was Pat Smith? New South Wales, Australia
By
Aussie Liahona on 18-Aug-20. Waypoint GC8YJQK
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Logs
Enjoying a scenic drive today. Stopped for a quick park and grab. Managed to squeeze a HZ into the logbook. Sorry we didn't have a micro logbook to replace the full one. TFTC Aussie Liahona
Tftc on a scenic drive today and picked up this little treat! May need to replace the log, so I took a pic instead.
Aussie Liahona I found your cache Who Was Pat Smith? on 30/9/2024, 12:50pm. This is my find 7082 and find # 12 today. A quick and easy drive by. Thanks for the cache, mate! TNSLLN
Out caching just for one cache on way to lunch at Crystal Creek. Stoped at this nice park. Cache found and log signed. TFTC Aussie Liahona
Passed here during the week, construction traffic was close by. Returned on a rainy weekend. tftc
After a day on the NNWRT Nyssaflutterby and I decided we didnt need a rest we needed more caches. So we headed out and found a few more. Some interesting caches in this area. I loved the drive along the river, what a beautiful area. Tftc
Tftc. As I first passed the GZ, county workers were loading their lawn mower to a trailer. I drove the road further on and parked to roadside. Luckily after couple of minutes that lorry + trailer went passing by. After that I drove to GZ and picked up the container from obvious place.
It was a very early start this morning leaving the north of Brisbane to a attend a 7am CITO at Tweed heads. The weather was cools and a bit overcast but it was lovely way to start the morning.I quickly found a place to park the car and made my way to ground zero in high expectation of the find.The target was quickly located, log extracted and a mark made to celebrate the find.The prize was quickly returned and on my way again.A big thanks to the cache owner for making this cache available to be found.Cheers
Nice Hwyde and thank you for the case as I drove past here I thought who is Pat Smith. Then I discovered the case of the same name and turned round to discover the answer.
Heading down for a weekend of riding the NRRT and caching along the way. Took a back road into Murwillumbah to take a look at the area and collect a few caches along the way.
I am on my way to Murwillumbah to cycle the Northern Rivers Rail Trail tomorrow.
I knew I would need a break from driving by now and that I would have time to find a few caches.
Thanks for the cache.
I knew I would need a break from driving by now and that I would have time to find a few caches.
Thanks for the cache.
Driving back to Redcliffe we took this scenic back road because it would be a shame to miss it. I jumped out of the car while my passengers stayed in because they were still gas bagging about their wonderful long weekend. tftc
So a plan was hatched with Peppa to visit the northern rivers area, grab some target caches and then finish off at a local night time event, sounds like a fun day.
We had a plan and that lasted all of four caches, just as a new cache was dropped in our laps. It turns out that today was the day for the launch of the Northern Rivers Rail Trail, starting in Murwillumbah and finishing in Crabbes Creek. There were some new adventure labs and a new bonus cache.
We changed tack and headed for the new adventure lab and bonus cache. We had an awesome day and a very nice finish to the night was the catch up dinner event.
So with the new plan which is basically is just the same plan in reverse, lol. We headed off on some new adventures. It was an awesome time. We singed the log on this cache and replaced as found, then continued with the new plan. Thanks for the hide.
We had a plan and that lasted all of four caches, just as a new cache was dropped in our laps. It turns out that today was the day for the launch of the Northern Rivers Rail Trail, starting in Murwillumbah and finishing in Crabbes Creek. There were some new adventure labs and a new bonus cache.
We changed tack and headed for the new adventure lab and bonus cache. We had an awesome day and a very nice finish to the night was the catch up dinner event.
So with the new plan which is basically is just the same plan in reverse, lol. We headed off on some new adventures. It was an awesome time. We singed the log on this cache and replaced as found, then continued with the new plan. Thanks for the hide.
Found with Peppa on our way back from Lismore.
Interesting place to have a park. Lovely trees .
Thanks for the cache
Interesting place to have a park. Lovely trees .
Thanks for the cache
PirateLinda and I have been caching around the Northern Rivers for the day, and we’re finally on our way home… but thanks to daylight savings, there’s time for one (or three) more cache on the way…
A quick find at GZ…
Tftc…
A quick find at GZ…
Tftc…
Dropped in on a scooter ride. Thanks for the history. Fascinating stuff. Benfolds7
Watawieh from Norfolk Island South Pacific.
This afternoons drive was through Tomewin & Tumbulgun to find some geocaches and visit Waymarks. Who is Alf Colefax
Found & logged using Cachly for iOS
This afternoons drive was through Tomewin & Tumbulgun to find some geocaches and visit Waymarks. Who is Alf Colefax
Found & logged using Cachly for iOS
Nice little park for a cache. TFTC. Nice easy one. Let the dog out for a run.
Grass needs mowing and looks 4x4s have been having fun great spot easy find! Locke Nash 12-2-22
It has been said that the Ankh is the only river in the multiverse where cops can draw a chalk outline when a corpse is found.
Great hide. what a park in the middle of No where. the sound of the wind in the line yes is great. TFTC
Thanks for this one. Signed PJT as I do with a lot of these types to save room for future catchers. All is good with this one
After spotting Liz & Bruce at a cache nearby on my way home from coffee with them and Ms Maddy i decided to accompany them to this cache as it's one I was yet to find in the area. Bruce was at the right end to begin with but it wasn't until I went over there that I spotted it, maybe because I have a cache hidden similarly in Murwillumbah. Signed the log and returned it to it's hidey hole and then accompanied them the red rattler because I hadn't been there since I found the cache some years ago. TFTC!
Interesting story about Pat Smith, thx for sharing
Lizbeth found the cache on a rainy outing with Liz and Bruce ️
TFTC AL
Lizbeth found the cache on a rainy outing with Liz and Bruce ️
TFTC AL
Wonderful area to explore great placement and interesting road. Thanks Aussie Liahona
Drive passed here regularly when up from Adelaide staying with the old folk nearby. Finally stopped to get this one after getting the AL in town. Tftc
Had a few tasks in Tweed Heads so had some time to get some caches as well. This was the first and was a quick find between the traffic. The more important question here is who was Alf Colefax?
TFTC Aussie Liahona
TFTC Aussie Liahona
Had to take a trip today to fix one of my caches and this was on the way. They have done a lovely job of this little park. TFTC
Dangle some local historical mystery in front of me, and I'm just likely to take the bait.
May I add additional confusion to this mystery by asking if this park is Patrick Smith the Irish immigrant, or his son Patrick Smith, the auctioneer? Patrick Smith Snr was a convict having been convicted and transported at age 13 from Ireland for the theft of a handkerchief (yes really). Although the record suggests that he was an orphan or certainly motherless and had already been convicted for a previous offence. He received his ticket of leave in 1832. He was killed by a falling tree in 1871. His grave is on private property on the crest of a small hill in Dulguigan Road.
His oldest son, "the first white child born on the Tweed" was born in 1851. Although, according to the family records I have access to at the moment, he was baptised in Cumberland in 1852 which is where his siblings were born. Other newspaper reports written 60/70+ years later state that the family lived in the Tweed for three years before moving to Sydney. It makes it difficult to determine what actually happened across that arc of time. Especially when you consider that for early settlement, the priority was survival and trying to find out what would earn you a sustained income. Patrick Smith Jnr is buried in the Old Murwillumbah Cemetery (Banner St).
I admit I have a few issues with the newspaper article you quoted. I suspect that the 'ferociousness' of the local Aboriginals has been exaggerated. Yes, there was an incident at regarding the murder of two Cedar getters in the area but my research into 19th Tweed History suggests that relations with the local indigenous were friendly if not helpful.
There are records of Tweed Heads and surrounding parks in the TH Historical Society resources, I wonder if the Murwillumbah HS has the same and can assist with an answer.
This has been an interesting exercise, and it was an interesting location today.
Thanks for the cache.
May I add additional confusion to this mystery by asking if this park is Patrick Smith the Irish immigrant, or his son Patrick Smith, the auctioneer? Patrick Smith Snr was a convict having been convicted and transported at age 13 from Ireland for the theft of a handkerchief (yes really). Although the record suggests that he was an orphan or certainly motherless and had already been convicted for a previous offence. He received his ticket of leave in 1832. He was killed by a falling tree in 1871. His grave is on private property on the crest of a small hill in Dulguigan Road.
His oldest son, "the first white child born on the Tweed" was born in 1851. Although, according to the family records I have access to at the moment, he was baptised in Cumberland in 1852 which is where his siblings were born. Other newspaper reports written 60/70+ years later state that the family lived in the Tweed for three years before moving to Sydney. It makes it difficult to determine what actually happened across that arc of time. Especially when you consider that for early settlement, the priority was survival and trying to find out what would earn you a sustained income. Patrick Smith Jnr is buried in the Old Murwillumbah Cemetery (Banner St).
I admit I have a few issues with the newspaper article you quoted. I suspect that the 'ferociousness' of the local Aboriginals has been exaggerated. Yes, there was an incident at regarding the murder of two Cedar getters in the area but my research into 19th Tweed History suggests that relations with the local indigenous were friendly if not helpful.
There are records of Tweed Heads and surrounding parks in the TH Historical Society resources, I wonder if the Murwillumbah HS has the same and can assist with an answer.
This has been an interesting exercise, and it was an interesting location today.
Thanks for the cache.
I see Suzy has told you everything she knows about the spot. I guess that's why she spends so much time reading and researching. Its all cool because it usually means we have some interesting adventures to interesting spots. Like this one. Its a very nice spot and I liked the sound of the wind through the pine trees as well as the view over the cane fields to the ridge line. I could see Mt Cougal and the sky was interesting too. Suzy posted a photo on her log.
Thank you for the cache Aussie Liahona.
<3 Samboo Bear xx
Thank you for the cache Aussie Liahona.
<3 Samboo Bear xx
Found at 11:51 AM GAFF1.
I'm going with the lawn bowling Pat as the one who the park is named after. After all a sporting person is far more important than some pioneer who had nothing to do with how he became the first white child born in the Tweed
Thanks Aussie Liahona.
I'm going with the lawn bowling Pat as the one who the park is named after. After all a sporting person is far more important than some pioneer who had nothing to do with how he became the first white child born in the Tweed
Thanks Aussie Liahona.
Thanks for bringing me back here. I was here previously to see if there was a headstone for Paddy Smith's Grave - 1948? There is no headstone unfortunately but there are quite a few at the nearby North Tumbulgum Cemetery (See GCPT56 94 Steps to Glory) TFTC
Found it quick easy find the park gets busy some-days with the cyclists when having a road race comp tftc Aussie Liahona