Grose Grose Vale, New South Wales, Australia
By
Geocaching Australia on 01-Sep-09. Waypoint TP2078
Cache Details
| Difficulty: | |
| Terrain: | |
| Type: | TrigPoint |
| Container: | Other |
| Coordinates: | S33° 37.400' E150° 36.945' (WGS 84) |
| 56H 278827E 6277057N (UTM) | |
| Elevation: | 459 m |
| Local Government Area: | Hawkesbury City |
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Description
Grose TS2335
Official name of this Trig Station as per NSW Department of Lands is: Grose.
Serial number is: TS2335.
Last inspected on: March 31, 1976.
Elevation is: 458 meters.
This Trig is still alive and well, complete with Cairn, post and vanes and also the name plaque fixed to the vane.
A trig point (also known as a Trigonometric Station) typically consists of a black disc on top of four metal legs or concrete pillar, resembling a navigation beacon. It is also accompanied by a metal disc, which is located directly below the center point of the tripod or on top of the pillar itself.
Trig points are generally located at the top of hills or points of prominence in the landscape. Many provide unique views and challenges, with some being difficult to get to.
These points were regarded as valuable to surveyors, providing reference points for measuring distance and direction, and assisting in the creation of maps.
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Addtional Information
Source: Geoscience Australia
Type: Horizontal Control Point
Elevation: 458.1
PID: 2950529
Other Information: Geoscience Australia
Logs
MrT located this trig while bike riding in the area with friends. His GPS looks so small! TFTT
Rated: for Overall Experience
What an afternoon – what a walk this is, haven’t done a walk like this in a while & loved it. I came from the Yarramundi side thinking it was a little easier – don’t know about it been easier, it’s all up & I’m mean uphill from trail head. Last week there was very strong winds in the Sydney basin & along the fire trail you could see the gum trees stripped of its leaves & small / large branches that didn’t survive the winds. In places the leaf litter was great.
I’m very glad to complete this trig & GC cache Above a Dappled Valley in the cooler months, not recommended on a hot summer’s day. Getting to trig was an interesting old fire trail & in areas there is short off tracks that lead you to views of the valley & the greater Richmond area. The fire trail ends at trig & what do I find at the base of trig – a log book cache placed by the Springwood bushwalking club & yes, many people do come here – many interesting logs.
Now of to GC cache Above a Dappled Valley https://coord.info/GC15E3H which is only 500 metres BUT that’s a series 500 metre walk on a single walking track but the view was great.
Highly recommending this trig for the views along the way. Many thanks again
I’m very glad to complete this trig & GC cache Above a Dappled Valley in the cooler months, not recommended on a hot summer’s day. Getting to trig was an interesting old fire trail & in areas there is short off tracks that lead you to views of the valley & the greater Richmond area. The fire trail ends at trig & what do I find at the base of trig – a log book cache placed by the Springwood bushwalking club & yes, many people do come here – many interesting logs.
Now of to GC cache Above a Dappled Valley https://coord.info/GC15E3H which is only 500 metres BUT that’s a series 500 metre walk on a single walking track but the view was great.
Highly recommending this trig for the views along the way. Many thanks again
Rated: for Overall Experience
What GeoGenS said 
Slightly disappointed that a lot of the cute little promising paths marked on my map ended up to be firetrail, but some lovely places inamongst. Nice trig with character!
Saw a snake too. It was brown but don't know whether it was a Brown. Good to be out adventuring again.
Slightly disappointed that a lot of the cute little promising paths marked on my map ended up to be firetrail, but some lovely places inamongst. Nice trig with character!
Saw a snake too. It was brown but don't know whether it was a Brown. Good to be out adventuring again.
Rated: for Overall Experience
Shankspony and I set off about 9:15am from the Winmalee side. On the way to the trig we took the Blue Gum Swamp track returning via Shaws Ridge until we discovered a little track that took us back to the valley and the Blue Gum Swamp track. Visited The Grotto on the way back.
A really nice walk with some great views. Although it was overcast, it was humid so we definitely worked up a sweat.
A really nice walk with some great views. Although it was overcast, it was humid so we definitely worked up a sweat.
Rated: for Overall Experience
Out for a bushwalk with the SBW so thie approach to this trig was not the usual route. Started at Faulconbridge then via Faulconbridge Ridge, Kariwoga Ridge, Springwood Creek/Grose River then climbed up to the trig. Saw two death adders on the way.
Really nice trig and a great walk back to Winmalee via the Blue Gum Swamp track. Lots of wilflowers out including waratahs.
Really nice trig and a great walk back to Winmalee via the Blue Gum Swamp track. Lots of wilflowers out including waratahs.
Rated: for Overall Experience
It was almost exactly 4 years ago the last time I was there, just as amazing as I remembered it. This time pjmpjm and I came from the Yarramundi side, a much easier way than from Winmalee and much shorter as well.
For some reason last time I did not take photos of the old vanes, so I did today. Beautiful weather with a cool breeze which was welcome on the steep uphill parts of the track.
For some reason last time I did not take photos of the old vanes, so I did today. Beautiful weather with a cool breeze which was welcome on the steep uphill parts of the track.
What a great expedition and a great find!
Am very grateful to have been able to access this classic trig, with wonderful views, thanks to the assistance and encouragement of rogerw3.
We entered via the Yarramundi fire trail, off the end of Mountain Road, and drove until we encountered the NP gates.
There was a fair bit of up hill trekking after that, requiring a few stops for rest and hydration, but we knew it would be that much easier coming back. On the way up, we found one particularly spectacular lookout point and took lots of photos.
Finally, at the very end of the fire trail, we arrived at the historical trig, still standing amidst trees with its rocky cairn, wooden post and weather-beaten vanes. The official plaque was still attached to the vanes, which was great to see.
Nearby was the 'spilled' original cairn and the even-older original vanes, rusting away in obscurity.
A few metres behind the trig was another good lookout, partly obscured by trees but nevertheless impressive.
The weather continued to be just what you what for such an expedition, sunny and a bit cool, and we made the walk back much more quickly.
A great outing. Outstanding. Five Thumbs Up!
Rated: for Overall Experience
I left my geo assistant at the final saddle but I think she had already done all the hard climbing by then. just near the cairn there is a big new clearing I assume for helicopters. a good hard hike. I may continue on to the Grose one day but for today time to return to the car.
After the Nearby GC cache, as much as I knew this wasn't nice to drag my brother in law all the way to that on the mountains bikes. I pointed to the top of this mountain and said that is next! Not knowing about the track conditions, We proceeded with the bikes As I was lead by another online map that this was a "fire trail" No fire trail it was, lucky to even say its a walking track. But while I'm this close to this trig, I was determined to finally cross this trig off my list. We needed to carry the bikes up the first ridge, then able to ride for a little bit down to had to stop and go up hill again with the bikes. this ride was turning more into a cross training exercise, more walking and carrying the bikes instead of riding. We got along the top to follow on to reach to the peak to finally finding the trig! Good to see this trig was still standing after the winds and wild weather to evidence of bush fire. Still reasonably upright was impressive. I even found some older vanes about 10 metres away, maybe this did get replaced once in the past. Anyways, a tough and challenging hikes carrying bikes to this trig with some great rewards n a fantastic find with some wonderful views around. more rewarding for me, not so much for my brother in law to bust his guts to find an "old rusty sign" so he said. but he did enjoy the adventure in the end, but not keen on trying to ride that so called trail. In the end, a great reward for me.
Woo Hoo! Trig number 300 and an FTF as well.
I have had to wait for a few days for the weather to clear up before going for this virgin Trig, today looked perfect, a mild cool spring day.
On the train I go to Springwood, then the bus to Winmalee and start on the Shaws Ridge track, a nice day for a walk, the track is very good but don't let that fool you it climbs steadily until a long drop into the Blue Gum Creek gully and then after a bit of easy flattish walk a very steep climb to the top of the next ridge. Then carry on in a general upward trend to the magnificent Grose Lookout, a view to die for and in fact if you are not careful you may do just that!
That was the easy bit now onto the track to the trig, easy to spot in fact it will take you past a nice cache 'Above a Dappled Valley' well worth doing that one. After that you can look forward to a nice walk, don't be fooled as soon as you think this is a breeze the track becomes a goat's nightmare, and climbs up and up still easy to follow but man is it hard work.
When you eventually get to the top the track flattens out and you think hey only 300 metres to go easy peasy now. but you start to think why is the track going down? And sure enough now you remember that the Trig is not on this ridge but on the next one and your heart drops because there is another savage climb in front of you. Only 180 metres to go I am sitting on a rock thinking I will not give up now, the phone rings it is pjmpjm checking up on me, to see if I am still alive I guess. On I go, I make it to the top, 10 metres to go and no sign of the Trig, I feel like crying after all this effort but wait just here what is it YES it is the trig hidden by thick bushes but only on my side the other is clear for a great photo!
The cairn is in good condition considering the age, the post has seen better days and is partly burnt and leaning but the vanes are still there, with the name engraved on two vanes and the name plaque fixed on the vane as well.
It has taken 2 1/2 hours of fast power walking to get there, I originally expected 3-4 hours leisurely walk and that is about right with plenty of rest stops on the way, but believe me there was no leisure involved today. Don't be stupid like me and rush it, I did not need to do that and surely should not have done that! Ah well you live and learn, or in my case you don't.
Still I was so very happy to have found this trig, and while many other walkers have been this way none were GCA Trig aficionados so they don't count!
I have had to wait for a few days for the weather to clear up before going for this virgin Trig, today looked perfect, a mild cool spring day.
On the train I go to Springwood, then the bus to Winmalee and start on the Shaws Ridge track, a nice day for a walk, the track is very good but don't let that fool you it climbs steadily until a long drop into the Blue Gum Creek gully and then after a bit of easy flattish walk a very steep climb to the top of the next ridge. Then carry on in a general upward trend to the magnificent Grose Lookout, a view to die for and in fact if you are not careful you may do just that!
That was the easy bit now onto the track to the trig, easy to spot in fact it will take you past a nice cache 'Above a Dappled Valley' well worth doing that one. After that you can look forward to a nice walk, don't be fooled as soon as you think this is a breeze the track becomes a goat's nightmare, and climbs up and up still easy to follow but man is it hard work.
When you eventually get to the top the track flattens out and you think hey only 300 metres to go easy peasy now. but you start to think why is the track going down? And sure enough now you remember that the Trig is not on this ridge but on the next one and your heart drops because there is another savage climb in front of you. Only 180 metres to go I am sitting on a rock thinking I will not give up now, the phone rings it is pjmpjm checking up on me, to see if I am still alive I guess. On I go, I make it to the top, 10 metres to go and no sign of the Trig, I feel like crying after all this effort but wait just here what is it YES it is the trig hidden by thick bushes but only on my side the other is clear for a great photo!
The cairn is in good condition considering the age, the post has seen better days and is partly burnt and leaning but the vanes are still there, with the name engraved on two vanes and the name plaque fixed on the vane as well.
It has taken 2 1/2 hours of fast power walking to get there, I originally expected 3-4 hours leisurely walk and that is about right with plenty of rest stops on the way, but believe me there was no leisure involved today. Don't be stupid like me and rush it, I did not need to do that and surely should not have done that! Ah well you live and learn, or in my case you don't.
Still I was so very happy to have found this trig, and while many other walkers have been this way none were GCA Trig aficionados so they don't count!
Rated: for Overall Experience
