Roach Ku-Ring-Gai Chase, New South Wales, Australia
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Geocaching Australia on 20-Apr-11. Waypoint TP5683
Cache Details
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| Type: | TrigPoint |
| Container: | Other |
| Coordinates: | S33° 39.009' E151° 10.965' (WGS 84) |
| 56H 331485E 6275152N (UTM) | |
| Elevation: | 209 m |
| Local Government Area: | Northern Beaches |
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Description
Roach TS3914
The official name of the Trig Station as per the NSW Department of Land is: Roach.
Serial number is: TS3914
Last inspected: no data.
Elevation is: 223 meters.
This trig was 'unpiled' (Lands Department speak for removed/destroyed) by the Lands Department at some unspecified date, probably in the 1970s. At GZ you will find the original bronze locating pin that was originally in the center of the cairn. The cairn is built around the post that sits right on top of the locating pin. There are also some remains of the post proper, but the cairn was comprehensively unpiled with the stone scattered around, and there can be no doubts that it was a trig.
It will require a bush bash through some very dense vegetation to get to GZ, but it is very satisfying to find the original locating bronze pin still there. Location is just off the Long Track offshoot of the Perimeter Trail.
Hints
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Came out to the area with 3 specific Trigs to find. Roach, Long and Cowan. There are others nearby, but they will require more time and planning...and maybe some extra bravery, or a fellow trig hunter for support. Both trails are good for the mountain bike. Not too hard. Not too easy. I came home very satisfied. 50m bush bash to a selection of rock piles. This one does not have the wow factor as the other two in the area.
Poor old Roach looks a bit sad having been depiled when decommissioned. Its strange that this one had been reduced to scattered stones when others have been left in almost their original state.
Rated: for Overall Experience
A sad pile of rocks, just off the Ling Trail (a bit of bush-bashing required)!
https://hikingtheworld.blog/2020/04/12/cowan-and-wilkins-tracks-ku-ring-gai-np/
https://hikingtheworld.blog/2020/04/12/cowan-and-wilkins-tracks-ku-ring-gai-np/
Out for a wander with PPE for trigs, caches and exercise on this ideally cool morning.
Unlike other trigs, Roach didn't appear until we were less than 10m from it. It's a bit sad with just a circle of depiled stones and a surveyor's peg driven through its heart. No sign of mast or vanes.
We cleared a lot debris that was covering it. It deserved that much.
Unlike other trigs, Roach didn't appear until we were less than 10m from it. It's a bit sad with just a circle of depiled stones and a surveyor's peg driven through its heart. No sign of mast or vanes.
We cleared a lot debris that was covering it. It deserved that much.
Rated: for Overall Experience
Out on another training walk this morning, this time with my Grumpy Old mate Baktrak.
The trig cairn was scattered everywhere we did find a remnant of a post.
There was a nearby banksia tree with several fantastic Grumpy Old Banksia Men overlooking the Trig
An excellent walk in perfect / cool conditions.
The trig cairn was scattered everywhere we did find a remnant of a post.
There was a nearby banksia tree with several fantastic Grumpy Old Banksia Men overlooking the Trig
An excellent walk in perfect / cool conditions.
As I approached the GZ I accidentally overshot the trig and as a result seem to have come around from the back. I missed the post and the pin but I did however find some of the corroded vanes about 25m away.
Found during a SBW 'Six Trigs in a Day" walk. Trigs found included: White, Cowan, Roach, Long, Arthur and Wilkins.
The trig itself has long ago been dis-mantled, however, as others have said there are still some signs of its existance including numerous rocks and the pin.
The trig itself has long ago been dis-mantled, however, as others have said there are still some signs of its existance including numerous rocks and the pin.
29/03/14. 9:40 AM. GCA Cache #15. I was up in Kuring-Gai NP this morning looking for two of Tyreless' new GC caches (Long and Cowan). While I grabbed them I decided to look for the GCA trigs as well.
This one I found an hour after the Long GC cache (having found the Long trig in between). The bush bash to the unpiled trig was fairly easy going, only getting thick as I got close. It took me no time at all to find the post, but the brass pin proved a lot trickier, as it was lying on the ground. I uprighted it to get a snap.
Kept going on my way to the 2 Cowans (GC & GCA). TFTC }:)
This one I found an hour after the Long GC cache (having found the Long trig in between). The bush bash to the unpiled trig was fairly easy going, only getting thick as I got close. It took me no time at all to find the post, but the brass pin proved a lot trickier, as it was lying on the ground. I uprighted it to get a snap.
Kept going on my way to the 2 Cowans (GC & GCA). TFTC }:)
Rated: for Overall Experience
The Long Trail was fresh from yesterday's rain but the morning was bright and clear. Bushfires 6 months ago meant the last 60m to the trig from the trail wasn't too hard. The blue tape is still hanging from a bush to tell you where to start.
As others have said, what remains of Roach is quite scattered but worth a visit.
As others have said, what remains of Roach is quite scattered but worth a visit.
Rated: for Overall Experience
It's a pity this one was all dismantled, but it was a fun bush bash in!
Rated: for Overall Experience
After Cowan trig and "Near and Far" we thought we'd do a small deviation up Long Trail to this old remnant.
It was a further 500 or so metres up the track from the junction and we only saw two cyclists on the way. The track was wet but the weather was okay. Got to 60 metres from the trig position and the track was going further away so we had a difficult bushbash to the remains. Luckily the coords were spot on and I could see the loose stones through the jungle. Found the small bit of mast that had been 'restored' and the corroded brass locating pin, first one we've seen. Sad that it's been so pulled apart, you wonder why they bothered.
Grabbed our photos and found a better track out, marked by the four other visitors that have been here. A bit of blue flagging tape marks the start.
Good fun, didn't push on to Long trig, another day.
It was a further 500 or so metres up the track from the junction and we only saw two cyclists on the way. The track was wet but the weather was okay. Got to 60 metres from the trig position and the track was going further away so we had a difficult bushbash to the remains. Luckily the coords were spot on and I could see the loose stones through the jungle. Found the small bit of mast that had been 'restored' and the corroded brass locating pin, first one we've seen. Sad that it's been so pulled apart, you wonder why they bothered.
Grabbed our photos and found a better track out, marked by the four other visitors that have been here. A bit of blue flagging tape marks the start.
Good fun, didn't push on to Long trig, another day.
Rated: for Overall Experience
It must have taken a lot of heavy lifting to dismantle this huge stone cairn! The stones are scattered far and wide and in the middle of the area is the remains of the old post and the locating pin. Wow! I'd never seen one of these before so it was very interesting. Thanks to rogerw3 and pjmjpm for finding this pin
As we made our way back from Long trig, we stopped by this spot to see the scattered circle of stones with the locating pin.
According to my research using old parish maps this trig was known as 'Roach' and the trig known as 'Long' was positioned some 1.5km due north of this point. I have edited the description but if anyone knows more please amend.
Of the four trigs found during our afternoon trig hunting session, this one was the most surprising of all!
Once again, rogerw3 'hit the nail on the head' with his calculations off the old maps, bringing us through the extremely thick bush straight to the overgrown 'debris field' where the NSW Department of Lands 'de-piled' the original cairn marking TS3914.
We immediately saw the remains of the old post as well (though no vanes), but the biggest surprise was the bronze 'locating pin' -- still lying on the ground! Amazing. I guess these pins were thought to be of little value, so when the TS was de-activated, it was simply left on the ground with the scattered stones. (We photographed it and left it in place.)
Although the cairn was no longer standing, the 'ruins' were still impressive.
A great trig find . . .
'Three Thumbs Up' for historical value and the amazement factor.
Once again, rogerw3 'hit the nail on the head' with his calculations off the old maps, bringing us through the extremely thick bush straight to the overgrown 'debris field' where the NSW Department of Lands 'de-piled' the original cairn marking TS3914.
We immediately saw the remains of the old post as well (though no vanes), but the biggest surprise was the bronze 'locating pin' -- still lying on the ground! Amazing. I guess these pins were thought to be of little value, so when the TS was de-activated, it was simply left on the ground with the scattered stones. (We photographed it and left it in place.)
Although the cairn was no longer standing, the 'ruins' were still impressive.
A great trig find . . .
'Three Thumbs Up' for historical value and the amazement factor.
Rated: for Overall Experience
Trig number 3 for the day's Trig hunt with pjmpjm. This was particularly satisfying as we did not really expect very much since we knew it had been unpiled by the lands Department. However the discovery of the original locating bronze pin, even if somewhat corroded was quite a surprise, you will also find part of the post. Unfortunately the cairn has been scattered but the circular pattern can still be made out.
This is not an easy bush bash as the vegetation is particularly dense but well worth the effort.
This is not an easy bush bash as the vegetation is particularly dense but well worth the effort.
Rated: for Overall Experience
