White Ku-Ring-Gai Chase, New South Wales, Australia
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Geocaching Australia on 29-Apr-11. Waypoint TP5775
Cache Details
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| Type: | TrigPoint |
| Container: | Other |
| Coordinates: | S33° 39.687' E151° 10.692' (WGS 84) |
| 56H 331085E 6273891N (UTM) | |
| Elevation: | 205 m |
| Local Government Area: | Northern Beaches |
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Description
White TS4745
The official name of the Trig Station as per the NSW Department of Land is: White.
Serial number is: TS4745.
Last inspected: June 24, 1982.
Elevation is: 202 meters.
Although the stone cairn of this trig has been dis-assembled, it's better than other trigs in that the centre pole and the metal vanes are still in place. It requires about 1km cross-country navigation to reach this and depending on how long ago the last fires have come through, it may be quite an easy walk at times and a bit slower at other times.
Logs
Made an early start before sunrise which meant saw/heard plenty of wallabies on the walk out. Pretty easy walking at the moment along the spur which I continued on all the way down to the water then paddled up river to Duffys wharf for the hike back up the hill.
Rated: for Overall Experience
I hadn't yet visited this trig so I decided it would be a good stroll to work the kinks out of the old legs after the long bushbash to Want Trig the other day. I left the Cullamine Track at S33° 40.077' E151° 10.927' opposite the house and stables as others had done in the past. I had saved a tentative track to my GPS after plotting it on Google Earth but managed to delete it by mistake as I set off. Oh well!
There is a faint trail and the first of several trail markers about 85m from the Cullamine Track. I broadly followed the ridge in a shallow dogleg to the Trig. I encountered a few trail markers on the way up so I zig sagged my way back and found 11 or 12 in total. Some linked with the faint trail mentioned before and a few instances of bent over branches. Sometime I'll return and remark the track between the original marks I found. The markers are the same used on the track from the Perimeter Trail to Arthur Trig and beyond so probably originally marked by the same person. They are squares of venetian blind slat with galvanised nails. They seem to last for ages and are highly visible.
As noted by others, the poor old trig is severely depiled but it was interesting to decipher some of the old names and dates. Someone had kindly left a marker clipped to the vane for contemporary visitors to add their mark.
There is a faint trail and the first of several trail markers about 85m from the Cullamine Track. I broadly followed the ridge in a shallow dogleg to the Trig. I encountered a few trail markers on the way up so I zig sagged my way back and found 11 or 12 in total. Some linked with the faint trail mentioned before and a few instances of bent over branches. Sometime I'll return and remark the track between the original marks I found. The markers are the same used on the track from the Perimeter Trail to Arthur Trig and beyond so probably originally marked by the same person. They are squares of venetian blind slat with galvanised nails. They seem to last for ages and are highly visible.
As noted by others, the poor old trig is severely depiled but it was interesting to decipher some of the old names and dates. Someone had kindly left a marker clipped to the vane for contemporary visitors to add their mark.
Rated: for Overall Experience
While I had originally visited and found this trig on Monday, 30/7/1984, at 1520, I still wanted to get some current photos, with a reason to get some Dashpoints 'in Sydney' for November I thought I would make a day of it, and get back to at least this one in the Ku-Ring-Gai National Park. Found this time @ 0905 on the Friday morning, after getting to 30 m from GDDH-YPUC at Joalah Rd.
30 years is too long to remember how much this poor trig has changed; but it is now a dismantled rock cairn, with a short wooden pole and what looks like the original semi-circular vanes.
On the way out there is the occasional white reflector nailed to a tree, with one being right by the trig. Being so short - only one metre, I was about 15 metres away when I finally saw the trig!
30 years is too long to remember how much this poor trig has changed; but it is now a dismantled rock cairn, with a short wooden pole and what looks like the original semi-circular vanes.
On the way out there is the occasional white reflector nailed to a tree, with one being right by the trig. Being so short - only one metre, I was about 15 metres away when I finally saw the trig!
First found this trig on a bush walk from St Ives to Terrey Hills. Bushbashed our way to White then onto Cowan before heading around to try our luck with Wilkins (which proved elusive).
Revisited the trig on a SBW "Six Trigs in a Day" walk on 29 November 2014 where we visited White, Cowan, Roach, Long, Arthur and Wilkins.
Revisited the trig on a SBW "Six Trigs in a Day" walk on 29 November 2014 where we visited White, Cowan, Roach, Long, Arthur and Wilkins.
This is a 5-star bush walk. Came in off the Cullamine Trail near the stables. There's the vaguest of trails but the bushland is open and very easy to traverse so long as you stay on the ridge. Air was full of fragrant bush smells and bird calls, appropriate for the first day of spring.
After finding the trig I explored the nearby firetrails to Slades Lookout (fantastic view to Bobbin Head) and Duffys Wharf (peaceful and serene). Watched a lyrebird scratching out a nest on the way back up the hill and listened to Lyrebirds imitating other birds and what sounded like a house alarm.
Found at 7:25 AM
After finding the trig I explored the nearby firetrails to Slades Lookout (fantastic view to Bobbin Head) and Duffys Wharf (peaceful and serene). Watched a lyrebird scratching out a nest on the way back up the hill and listened to Lyrebirds imitating other birds and what sounded like a house alarm.
Found at 7:25 AM
Rated: for Overall Experience
After blossom* had checked out the bush to make sure it wasn't too thick for her ( 
) we headed out along the ridgeline to find this old trig. I spotted the post and vanes through the bush as we walked around a bit so it was a fairly easy find.
It seems there were lots of bushwalkers who came up this way as there are quite a lot of names written on the metal as well as the last survey date painted in white (kind of approriate for White's trig!) There are even a number of trail markers still visible nailed to trees along the ridge which must have been placed to mark the way in the past. There's no sign of any track these days though.
) we headed out along the ridgeline to find this old trig. I spotted the post and vanes through the bush as we walked around a bit so it was a fairly easy find. It seems there were lots of bushwalkers who came up this way as there are quite a lot of names written on the metal as well as the last survey date painted in white (kind of approriate for White's trig!) There are even a number of trail markers still visible nailed to trees along the ridge which must have been placed to mark the way in the past. There's no sign of any track these days though.
With another unlogged trig nearby falling yesterday (Long) we decided to go for one of the few remaining bush ones around here. Headed out to Duffys Forest and to the end of Bulara St not far from the start of the Perimeter Track but we went on the Callamine Track. Walked about 300 metres along the wet fire trail with lots of horsey evidence about and set off into the bush when we were about 850m from the trig. Decided to turn back as we could see a valley between us and the likely high point.
Continued down the hill and up the other side and came to a spot opposite some stables at a house. So we could have driven to the end of Booralie Rd and saved part of the walk.
A faint trail headed into the scrub. It wasn't thick bush so no concerns about the 800 metre bushbash. The trail quickly faded but we started to see white reflectors on the odd tree so we knew there had once been a track here. Every now and again a vague track appeared and petered out. Then we'd spot another reflector. There wasn't any real uphill walking and we just stayed on top of the ridge and followed the arrow.
Close to GZ I thought I spotted a large rocky cairn but it turned out to be the root ball of a fallen tree. Then we spotted some low lying vanes sticking up from an obviously "depiled" trig. The very short post and vanes had apparently been put back into the stones at some stage after destruction.
The vanes were similar to 'Knight' trig at Galston as the name and elevation (664 feet) were painted on along with the name of the surveyor (FA Mears - same as Knight). There was also the name of another surveyor (B.Parsons) on another vane. The date of the survey appeared to be 1958 or 1968.
Visitors to the trig had pencilled on the names of their groups in the past. I was a bit horrified to read "1st Harbord Seniors" and a date about 1971, there were oldies thrashing their way through the bush back then? But then I recalled that Scouts aged 15-18 used to be called "Senior Scouts" up until about 1973.
There were dates as far back as 1922 it appeared with none after about 1974 except one in 2003 by the Rural Fire Service. We took our photos and searched around for any sign of a pedestal trig but nothing there. Headed back following the vague trail again until we reached the horsey track.
Edit - unbelievably blossom* was there today too!
Continued down the hill and up the other side and came to a spot opposite some stables at a house. So we could have driven to the end of Booralie Rd and saved part of the walk.
A faint trail headed into the scrub. It wasn't thick bush so no concerns about the 800 metre bushbash. The trail quickly faded but we started to see white reflectors on the odd tree so we knew there had once been a track here. Every now and again a vague track appeared and petered out. Then we'd spot another reflector. There wasn't any real uphill walking and we just stayed on top of the ridge and followed the arrow.
Close to GZ I thought I spotted a large rocky cairn but it turned out to be the root ball of a fallen tree. Then we spotted some low lying vanes sticking up from an obviously "depiled" trig. The very short post and vanes had apparently been put back into the stones at some stage after destruction.
The vanes were similar to 'Knight' trig at Galston as the name and elevation (664 feet) were painted on along with the name of the surveyor (FA Mears - same as Knight). There was also the name of another surveyor (B.Parsons) on another vane. The date of the survey appeared to be 1958 or 1968.
Visitors to the trig had pencilled on the names of their groups in the past. I was a bit horrified to read "1st Harbord Seniors" and a date about 1971, there were oldies thrashing their way through the bush back then? But then I recalled that Scouts aged 15-18 used to be called "Senior Scouts" up until about 1973.
There were dates as far back as 1922 it appeared with none after about 1974 except one in 2003 by the Rural Fire Service. We took our photos and searched around for any sign of a pedestal trig but nothing there. Headed back following the vague trail again until we reached the horsey track.
Edit - unbelievably blossom* was there today too!
Rated: for Overall Experience
Yep, this trig is still there. Well, the middle pole and vanes are still standing, although the stone cairn has been pulled down. Judging by the number of stones scattered around, the cairn might not have been as substantial as some others in the area are/were.
We had a fairly easy cross-country trek to find this today. What a perfect day to be in the bush! We walked up the fire trail a short distance to the top of the hill and then headed off into the bush along the ridgeline. It was a very easy hour walk there and back including taking photos etc, probably only took us 45-50 minutes really.
You should have a study of the topo map before heading off becasue it's not a straight line so helps to know the little kinks in the ridge to follow along.
Late note: As we pulled our boots on at the car, I joked to strike-a-light that the car parked opposite us might have been pjmpjm's but Kev knew his car and confirmed not. "What about Yurt?" I pondered, becasue he's always pretty keen on FTF for trigs.
Thinking no more about it, we made the trip and after I had logged tonight, found Yurt HAD been there today!!! It turns out we were first, my gps shows My gps says 5-JUN-11 1:47:04PM (Elevation 191m)so we beat him by an hour or so!
We had a fairly easy cross-country trek to find this today. What a perfect day to be in the bush! We walked up the fire trail a short distance to the top of the hill and then headed off into the bush along the ridgeline. It was a very easy hour walk there and back including taking photos etc, probably only took us 45-50 minutes really.
You should have a study of the topo map before heading off becasue it's not a straight line so helps to know the little kinks in the ridge to follow along.
Late note: As we pulled our boots on at the car, I joked to strike-a-light that the car parked opposite us might have been pjmpjm's but Kev knew his car and confirmed not. "What about Yurt?" I pondered, becasue he's always pretty keen on FTF for trigs.
Thinking no more about it, we made the trip and after I had logged tonight, found Yurt HAD been there today!!! It turns out we were first, my gps shows My gps says 5-JUN-11 1:47:04PM (Elevation 191m)so we beat him by an hour or so!
** VERY LATE ENTRY **
Noticed Blossoms entry of being the First to Find (since publication). Well DONE!
But in the days of paper maps, and compass, and satellites were Sputnik, or something similar, there was still people, eccentric I admit, that went out looking for Trig Stations that were marked on the bushwalking maps.
On looking back through my Trig logbook of the 80's I notice that I found and photographed White, at GR3097370, in AusGeo66, with 10m 'accuracy'!
That was on Monday, 30/7/1984, at 1520. But all trig photos were tossed out in the 90's
Noticed Blossoms entry of being the First to Find (since publication). Well DONE!
But in the days of paper maps, and compass, and satellites were Sputnik, or something similar, there was still people, eccentric I admit, that went out looking for Trig Stations that were marked on the bushwalking maps.
On looking back through my Trig logbook of the 80's I notice that I found and photographed White, at GR3097370, in AusGeo66, with 10m 'accuracy'!
That was on Monday, 30/7/1984, at 1520. But all trig photos were tossed out in the 90's
Rated: for Overall Experience
