Crosslands Galston, New South Wales, Australia
By
Geocaching Australia on 28-Mar-12. Waypoint TP6311
Cache Details
| Difficulty: | |
| Terrain: | |
| Type: | TrigPoint |
| Container: | Other |
| Coordinates: | S33° 38.742' E151° 5.340' (WGS 84) |
| 56H 322781E 6275489N (UTM) | |
| Elevation: | 217 m |
| Local Government Area: | The Hornsby |
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Description
Crosslands TS10608
Official name of this Trig Station as per NSW Department of Lands is: Crosslands.
Serial number is: TS10608.
Last Inspected on: 1978.
Elevation is: 216 metres.
The Trig is a stainless steel pin only, no beacon erected. Set up by the MWS&DB..
Remnants of the trig limited to a patch of glue apparently.
Logs
Not much to find here. In all honesty it is a bit disappointing to see a trig in this state.
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This is one very disappointing TP. Description mention "glue" which is easy to spot, but what of the pin? And if the pin is missing, then where is the hole? probably under the glue? If so...why? Explains why i was walking all over the place last time I was here.
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I found as much as others and more than recent "finders" but was disappointed not to find something more definite. I'm counting this as just an interim "find" for the moment.
The last reconnaissance survey describes the trig as a "Stainless Steel Pin", which I'd expect to be drilled and set into the rock. I had hoped to find some of the witness marks. There are now no gum trees where they were described, possibly having been destroyed by fires as most of the trees look relatively young. There should be a drill hole and wings in rock at about S33 38.746 E151 5.312 but it's not readily evident and that area has a lot of fallen debris. That location is not in good agreement, relative to the trail, with the location sketch. Of course, the trail could have moved in 40 years.
This is one to return to with a metal detector and/or immediately after a fire, when the area is clearer.
The last reconnaissance survey describes the trig as a "Stainless Steel Pin", which I'd expect to be drilled and set into the rock. I had hoped to find some of the witness marks. There are now no gum trees where they were described, possibly having been destroyed by fires as most of the trees look relatively young. There should be a drill hole and wings in rock at about S33 38.746 E151 5.312 but it's not readily evident and that area has a lot of fallen debris. That location is not in good agreement, relative to the trail, with the location sketch. Of course, the trail could have moved in 40 years.
This is one to return to with a metal detector and/or immediately after a fire, when the area is clearer.
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#GA1275 - 14:25; Day 2 of a Sydney caching mission with Sol de lune. Made our way to GZ and like others before us, didn't find too much. TFTC Geocaching Australia 
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Out with LuckyL10n for a couple of days caching around the area and this was the next stop. As others have said.....not much here at all. Photo was snapped and that was that for this one.....
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It has been 8 years since I had been past this trig site, when my family came along to find the "Firecom Tower Blue" geocache with my sister and brother-in-law that were caretakers just down the road.
My second edition Hornsby 1:25,000 topo map only has a 'spot height' mark of 214 m for this. (Tonight I can't find the 1st ed. map, but it is possible that there was a 'Horizontal Control Point' (light triangle or circle) there. While I have come across a few decrepit trigs, with only bent metal poles I don't remember anything here.
Today I just found what could be assumed to be burnt/melted plastic embedded on the rock at GZ.
My second edition Hornsby 1:25,000 topo map only has a 'spot height' mark of 214 m for this. (Tonight I can't find the 1st ed. map, but it is possible that there was a 'Horizontal Control Point' (light triangle or circle) there. While I have come across a few decrepit trigs, with only bent metal poles I don't remember anything here.
Today I just found what could be assumed to be burnt/melted plastic embedded on the rock at GZ.
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Decided to head down this way for a few caches this afternoon. This was the first on this side of the Gorge, and thanks to previous photos I knew I wasn't going to be looking for a big metal object. Quite easily spotted at GZ thanks to the markers that have been placed around it.
Was out this way today after thinking this trig was on the other side of the gorge first. Parked near the gates as a car full of teens pulled away, doubt they were trig hunting.
Found the least trig-like trig I've ever found after a few minutes - is that it? I'm not quite sure there's enough there to qualify as a trig now but I'll leave that to the GA powers-that-be. Took my shot and had a look around further to see if there was anything more substantial. I did find a length of pipe with a cross member lying on the ground about 10m away. If this were a typical Geodetic Survey marker I wouldn't think this was evidence of a trig but MWS&DB trigs are a bit different so I don't know. Have uploaded the photo anyway.
Found the least trig-like trig I've ever found after a few minutes - is that it? I'm not quite sure there's enough there to qualify as a trig now but I'll leave that to the GA powers-that-be. Took my shot and had a look around further to see if there was anything more substantial. I did find a length of pipe with a cross member lying on the ground about 10m away. If this were a typical Geodetic Survey marker I wouldn't think this was evidence of a trig but MWS&DB trigs are a bit different so I don't know. Have uploaded the photo anyway.
Over 12 months unfound! Came past after realising that my wife now works off this road. Drove up and parked behind another car. Hmmm, wonder what they are doing? I walked up and found the Trig, or the remains thereof. Thanx.
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Rode out on the pushbike to take another look around and found the resin spolg that pjm and roger identifyoed as the remnants of the trig. Fascintaing!
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This one was a bit of good luck that we managed to find a trace of it with pjmpjm.
All that can be found is the remnant of the green epoxy resin commonly used to fix survey markers and occasionally Trig plugs. In this case the plug was not drilled into the rock as would normally be the case, the MSW&DB had different standards, although I can't think of a good reason for them putting a Trig in this spot except perhaps that they were doing a survey at the time of the watershed as this seem to be the high point in the area.
In any case the stainless pin is long gone but the remnant of epoxy remains in place.
All that can be found is the remnant of the green epoxy resin commonly used to fix survey markers and occasionally Trig plugs. In this case the plug was not drilled into the rock as would normally be the case, the MSW&DB had different standards, although I can't think of a good reason for them putting a Trig in this spot except perhaps that they were doing a survey at the time of the watershed as this seem to be the high point in the area.
In any case the stainless pin is long gone but the remnant of epoxy remains in place.
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FTF with rogerw3!
This was our most interesting trig find of the day. Like PPE, we searched for a long time until rogerw3 discovered the rock-hard green epoxy resin used by the Water Board to fasten the non-standard location pin to the sandstone rock.
I'll leave it to rogerw3 to explain more.
I think we were very fortunate to find the remains of this one.
'Three Thumbs Up' for the amazement . . .
And thanks to rogerw3 for the research and publication.
This was our most interesting trig find of the day. Like PPE, we searched for a long time until rogerw3 discovered the rock-hard green epoxy resin used by the Water Board to fasten the non-standard location pin to the sandstone rock.
I'll leave it to rogerw3 to explain more.
I think we were very fortunate to find the remains of this one.
'Three Thumbs Up' for the amazement . . .
And thanks to rogerw3 for the research and publication.
Rated: for Overall Experience
Scratched around out here for 15mins with no luck. GZ is quite heavily covered with bark and logs. so it might be there if you look hard enough and dig out a lot of hubris.
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