Baldy Trig Hall, Australian Capital Territory, Australia
By
Geocaching Australia on 15-Dec-12. Waypoint TP6589
Cache Details
| Difficulty: | |
| Terrain: | |
| Type: | TrigPoint |
| Container: | Other |
| Coordinates: | S35° 9.660' E149° 4.421' (WGS 84) |
| 55H 688869E 6107133N (UTM) | |
| Elevation: | 755 m |
| Local Government Area: | Australian Capital Territory |
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Description
I’ve been eyeing off these trigs for years! But it has not been possible to get there! Well, at long last, according to actpla, it is now indeed possible! So welcome Baldy and One Tree to the ACT trig collection... (Although One Tree might be pushing the friendship to be considered in the ACT!)...
A Trig Point is a virtual cache which requires a cacher to locate the Trigonometric Station at GZ.
A trig point (also known as a Trigonometric Station) typically consists of a black disc on top of four metal legs or concrete pillar, resembling a navigation beacon. It is also accompanied by a metal disc, which is located directly below the center point of the tripod or on top of the pillar itself.
Trig points are generally located at the top of hills or points of prominence in the landscape. Many provide unique views and challenges, with some being difficult to get to.
These points were regarded as valuable to surveyors, providing reference points for measuring distance and direction, and assisting in the creation of maps.
To log a find on the Geocaching Australia website, you will need to include a picture of the trig point, along with your GPS receiver and (preferably) yourself. Long distance / telephoto type pictures are against the spirit of this cache. You are encouraged to leave a description of your journey in your log to help others in finding the trig point.
The original collection of trig points has been sourced from Geoscience Australia and may contain inaccuracies.
Please respect local laws and regulations when searching for trig points. If you believe that a trig point is located on private property or in a dangerous location, you may archive the cache, by clicking on Log this Cache and place an "Archived" log on the Geocaching Australia website.
If you feel that you can add to the description of this trig point or adjust the difficulty / terrain ratings, please feel free to edit this cache and amend the information suitably. Vandalism of the cache description or other information will result in your account being terminated.
Logs
One of the trigs we found whilst staying in Canberra for the Mega.
Required pic has been added to the gallery.
Required pic has been added to the gallery.
Rated: for Overall Experience
I was out caching with Sol de Lune and LuckyL10N today. A great day thanks to all the work SDL did preparing for this adventure. There was a mixture of GC and GCA caches - trads, multis, mysteries, trigs, virtuals and podcaches . Not all of us needed to find all the caches but there were enough to keep us all busy and very satisfied with the day's efforts. It has been very hot and I think we were all happy to call it a day when we did.
Apologies for the generic logs and big thanks to all the COs for placing and maintaining the caches. The logs were all signed as required or photographed if that was what was needed.
Apologies for the generic logs and big thanks to all the COs for placing and maintaining the caches. The logs were all signed as required or photographed if that was what was needed.
Rated: for Overall Experience
GLISS! and I have walked this track many times. With daylight savings, there was enough light to snap a photo of the trig.
Rode the Centenary Trail up as far as One Tree Hill TP.
Rated: for Overall Experience
Found while in Canberra with teamashy.Took the photo on my camera but my software to tranafer it to my phone is playing up so took it off the back viewfinder on my camera. TFTT
Rated: for Overall Experience
Out caching with thomo31, she’s teaching me how to do trigs. Whist on our Canberra holiday.
Tftt
Tftt
GCA 1773. Finally ticking this one off the list.
I've walked 'past' this Trig a number of times. It has a funny history, and I'm glad to finally make the find.
TFTC !!
I've walked 'past' this Trig a number of times. It has a funny history, and I'm glad to finally make the find.
TFTC !!
Rated: for Overall Experience
Like those before me, I have taken out the telephoto and taken a photo from a legal distance. 
Rated: for Overall Experience
Snapped a shot of the trig while walking to One Tree Hill along the Centenary trail. About as close as you will get without trespassing.
To quote from the descripton "Long distance / telephoto type pictures are against the spirit of this cache" 
Interesting also to see the NO Trespassing signs!
So, lots of finders of this cache: A long distance telescopic lens shot counts as a find. ????
By said same reasoning, a plain eye-sight look at it counts as a find too!
Found during my walk to the nearby Perseverance and one tree hill caches along the CCT. 9 Jan 2017 https://coord.info/GC4RBTM and https://coord.info/GC69KEV and https://coord.info/GC42VRZ
Sighted Trig many times, looked up to it often as I got to within a few hundred metres of it walking along the trail, but alas, no legal way to get closer.
One has to but smile and enjoy the walk!
Interesting also to see the NO Trespassing signs!
So, lots of finders of this cache: A long distance telescopic lens shot counts as a find. ????
By said same reasoning, a plain eye-sight look at it counts as a find too!
Found during my walk to the nearby Perseverance and one tree hill caches along the CCT. 9 Jan 2017 https://coord.info/GC4RBTM and https://coord.info/GC69KEV and https://coord.info/GC42VRZ
Sighted Trig many times, looked up to it often as I got to within a few hundred metres of it walking along the trail, but alas, no legal way to get closer.
One has to but smile and enjoy the walk!
Found on a very nice and overcast spring morning. Today, we decided to complete yet another section of the Centenary Trail, so to do so, we parked at Hall, walked all the way to One Tree Hill and then found the 18 caches on the way back. It was raining earlier this morning, so it was REALLY REALLY muddy along the path today - streams of water were also flowing all across the path, so it was a very interesting experience with lots of muddy pants and shoes. However, this section was very peaceful this morning, with some awesome rural views and no one else on the track. On our way past the trig, we quickly took a photo before we went on to the next cache. TFTC GCA!
Rated: for Overall Experience
#GA938 - 16:40; This is the trig I should have collected on Leap Day while I was passing, but didn't grab the snap, so in celebration of the anniversary of geocaching in Australia, I made amends today with a quick drive to Hall and the requisite happy snaps taken. TFTC Geocaching Australia
Published, archived, un-archived.....and now found. Headed out along the trail again and grabbed a couple of photo's. As we all know, you can't get that close, so a distance shot it is.....
If it is such that I can sight the Trig point, I have sighted it many, many, many times!
Spotted on a walk along the Canberra Bicentenary Trail. Goldenwattle took the photographs of it.
Rated: for Overall Experience
The Canberra Centenary Trail now runs close to this trig and it is now possible to get closer than it was before. The trig is clearly visible from the trail.
Rated: for Overall Experience
Now the Centenary trail passes just below this hill it is well within photo distance, and closer than several others that are on private property. Thanks
Albida
Albida
I have now received a reply from ACTPLA, and they have said that the ACTmapi data is indeed incorrect… Although there appears to be some hope that the trigs will eventually be accessible! Here is part of their response:
Unfortunately, both of these Trig Stations are located on Gungahlin Block 808, which has a private lease. There is currently no public access to either Trig Station.
However, work is being done to finalise the northern section of the Centenary Trail, with a proposed route going through Gungahlin Block 808. While the actual route through this block is yet to be confirmed, once complete it may offer you the possibility of public access to these trig stations. You may find more information at http://www.tams.act.gov.au/parks-recreation/recreational_activities/canberra_centenary_trail
Given the above, I have disabled the trigs for the time being.
Unfortunately, both of these Trig Stations are located on Gungahlin Block 808, which has a private lease. There is currently no public access to either Trig Station.
However, work is being done to finalise the northern section of the Centenary Trail, with a proposed route going through Gungahlin Block 808. While the actual route through this block is yet to be confirmed, once complete it may offer you the possibility of public access to these trig stations. You may find more information at http://www.tams.act.gov.au/parks-recreation/recreational_activities/canberra_centenary_trail
Given the above, I have disabled the trigs for the time being.
ACTMAPi is not always right. It lists the land at Big Monks as public even though it is not (well it did in 2009). I also queried the area through the step through "super gate" south of the Powerline Paddock between Theodore and Conder and was told by Canberra Connect that the rangers would have the "authoritative information". When I rang them they said that it was private and when I pointed out that ACTMAPi didn't concur she was surprised.
Thanks for that. It is because of this trig http://geocaching.com.au/cache/tp0223 (prior to gca publication) that I am reluctant to venture unto "private property", even though it is ACT leasehold (as distinct from Nature reserve, urban buffer etc). That trig was previously visited by rogainers, walkers and the occassional mountain biker, but after one group of walkers was met with a man with a rifle, another bailed up, me followed but I lost him because he couldn't go with a ute where I could go (he lost his gun licence because of his behaviour with the walkers, and he was in the news circa 2003 for other indescretions), that I'm not keen to venture to such places.
Further to this, I have also emailed actpla, because I do find their custodianship descriptions confusing at times. I will let you know what they say.
OK, seems the land use, or "title" or designation or whatever it is has completely changed.
Any future cachers, if apprehended or questioned while walking up there, please note in this trig listing.
Will re-enable.
Any future cachers, if apprehended or questioned while walking up there, please note in this trig listing.
Will re-enable.
Have attached a screen dump from actmapi site showing that the land is classified as "Vacant land" - and there were no "private property" signs on my approach.
Also, since the expansion of Casey, the surrounding land has more and more been reclaimed for suburbs.
Block 816 is now defined as:
Territory Plan Land Use Policies: RZ1: SUBURBAN; CZ4: LOCAL CENTRE; TSZ1: TRANSPORT; RZ4: MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL; CF: COMMUNITY FACILITIES; PRZ1: URBAN OPEN SPACE; NUZ3: HILLS, RIDGES AND BUFFER AREAS; CZ5: MIXED USE
Overlays: FUA: Future Urban Areas;
Pc: Nature Reserve.
Also, since the expansion of Casey, the surrounding land has more and more been reclaimed for suburbs.
Block 816 is now defined as:
Territory Plan Land Use Policies: RZ1: SUBURBAN; CZ4: LOCAL CENTRE; TSZ1: TRANSPORT; RZ4: MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL; CF: COMMUNITY FACILITIES; PRZ1: URBAN OPEN SPACE; NUZ3: HILLS, RIDGES AND BUFFER AREAS; CZ5: MIXED USE
Overlays: FUA: Future Urban Areas;
Pc: Nature Reserve.
"Well, at long last, according to actpla"....
If that info is not forthcoming, I will archive these two caches, Baldy Trig & One Tree Trig.
These 3 previous caches
1 - GC2K3HG - Mt Pan-O-Rama - http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=cc2d7db9-ac3f-4cc9-833f-795ba07d072d
2 - GC2K3H8 - The Flame - http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=e70704f2-fd0e-4d65-803a-3b216cbdab60
3 - GC1DF8 - North Canberra Views - http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC1DF8
are at these locations and are on PRIVATE property, which is why they were archived. AND, some signs up there were none too friendly also. ie KEEP OUT. PRIVATE PROPERTY.
So, please post the so called permission by actpla, otherwise, I will be archiving these two caches as they are on private property.
And the access point please, ie, one that does NOT have the intimidating signs.
If that info is not forthcoming, I will archive these two caches, Baldy Trig & One Tree Trig.
These 3 previous caches
1 - GC2K3HG - Mt Pan-O-Rama - http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=cc2d7db9-ac3f-4cc9-833f-795ba07d072d
2 - GC2K3H8 - The Flame - http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=e70704f2-fd0e-4d65-803a-3b216cbdab60
3 - GC1DF8 - North Canberra Views - http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC1DF8
are at these locations and are on PRIVATE property, which is why they were archived. AND, some signs up there were none too friendly also. ie KEEP OUT. PRIVATE PROPERTY.
So, please post the so called permission by actpla, otherwise, I will be archiving these two caches as they are on private property.
And the access point please, ie, one that does NOT have the intimidating signs.
Chooo ooo *FTF* on a rainy Saturday! (Got soaked - teach me not to check the forecast!) - Have been waiting for this to be published for years! Can finally get there!
Rated: for Overall Experience
