Then and Now Locationless, Locationless, Locationless
By big dazza on 04-Feb-08. Waypoint GA0994

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The object of this cache is to find an old black & white photo of an area, building, street or object, the older the better, then take a photo from as close as possible to where the original was taken from. The “then” photo must be black and white. The “now” photo must show your GPSr. To log a find simply post both photo’s along with the co-ords and a bit of the history of the location. Only one log per cacher and photo please.

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31-Jan-24
Uralla NSW
Was the Town Hall now Uralla Council Chambers. This building is as close to Uralla Creek as it could be put. In times of flood the back piers go under water. A lovely building that would have made a great little town hall. TFTC big dazza.
 
21-Jan-24
Darlington on Maria Island w is largely known today as a previous convict settlement for two periods in the first half of the 19th century. The island's first convict era took place between 1825 and 1832 and its second - the probation station era - was between 1842 and 1850.

Three structures from the first convict era remain in the Darlington area: the Commissariat Store built in 1825 and presently used as the park's reception and visitor center with information about the island; the convict penitentiary, completed in 1828 and now used to accommodate visitors; and the convict-built dam on Bernacchis Creek, which still provides Darlington's water.

Nice Idea big dazza
 
08-Jan-24
Town Hall, Oatlands, Tasmania

A two-storey Victorian building, erected in 1881 to a design by WH Lord. It's design, Georgian Revival, is sympathetic to other earlier buildings in the town.

Then and Now

Logging for the Cacheopoly Game.
 
08-Nov-22
I was researching for a series of caches and I came across this black and white photo of a family home of the founder of the Lions Club in Australia. The current house looks the same as the original photo. Thanks for the cache Big Dazza Smile
 
02-Nov-21
S41 26.172 E147 08.432 BRISBANE ST / GEORGE ST LAUNCESTON TASMANIA

This is looking along Brisbane Street from the George Street intersection. Very Happy
 
11-Nov-20
This Locationless Cache was quite amazing to come across.
When we were up in Exmouth recently, October 2020, I stood in the same spot as my Grandfather had back in the 1960’s.
Here are the two photos, I managed to get a car in a similar spot as it drove down the hill.
I use my phone as our gps, phone and camera, all in three apps in one phone.

Thanks for the Locationless Cache Smile
 
03-Dec-19
Having lunch at the Royal Mail Hotel in Mooroopna and saw this photo of the original fire brigade building there, so after lunch we went to the new building and took a shot of it.
Thanks for the locationless Big Dazza
 
20-Apr-19
Harbour at Coffs Harbour. When sampling fine fish and chips at the Fishermans Co-op, noticed this old photo of a storm washing a big wave over the northern breakwater at Coffs Harbour harbour. Went for a wander on Muttonbird Island the next day and noticed the same view. Not exactly the same angle but close!

History: Coffs Harbour owes its name to John Korff, who named the area Korff's Harbour when he was forced to take shelter from a storm in the area in 1847. The name was accidentally changed by the surveyor for the crown when he reserved land in the area during 1861. By the early 1900s, the Coffs Harbour area had become an important timber production centre. Timber tramways were constructed to connect the timber-getting areas, the sawmills and jetties built into the ocean at Coffs Harbour.

Thanks Big Dazza for the concept behind this locationless cache. Great fun.
Cheers
MajuraHathi
 
02-Dec-16
The Penrith Ambulance Station
High st Penrith
I am interested to know what will happen to this building when the new ambulance superstation is completed up the other end of high st near McDonalds.
thankyou
 
22-Jun-15
Harrisville School of Arts, S-E Qld.

The two photos are taken 100 years apart... 1915 and 2015.

When we visited there wasn't another person around - quite a contrast to the crowd of people and horses in the old photo.

Thanks big dazza.

 
30-Mar-14
The (Old) St.Arnaud Post office.
St Arnaud being an old town and having so many old photos of it from times past, that I had so many places that I could have chosen from but the old post office almost looks as though it has not changed in many years, apart form the odd A/C and new shutters oh and of course the trees around.
The Old Post office is now a BnB.
 
12-May-13
McBride Ave Wonthaggi.....

The 'then' photo is lloking north (as you can see in the photo) and the 'now' photo was taken from the round-a-bout that is very close the original. The other photo's are of McBride Ave, facing the other way.

Thanks for the fun locationless.....
 
19-Mar-13
These photos were taken from Franklin Wharf in Hobart (between Elizabeth and Argyle Streets). I am not sure of the age of the initial photo. There are a few buildings that haven't changed in this time-frame, but there are plenty of others that have changed significantly, as has the vehicle transport!
 
11-Dec-12
This building has had a chequered history-from it's grand beginning to an Indian restaurant to an empty building due to the earthquakes in the area.
 
14-Oct-12
We've had this one on our to do list for a while and today was the day. We went for a drive through Waratah and spotted an old photo opposite it's modern day counterpart.

Athenaeum Hall was opened in 1887 and was Waratah's second Mechanics Institute. Later it became the town hall and doubled as a cinema. Today it's an interpretation centre and gallery.
 
27-Jan-12
Cape St George Lighthouse, Jervis Bay.

The light operated between 1860 & 1889 at which time it was abandoned. It had been built in the wrong location due to a litany of failures & as a result, ships had trouble seeing it. A replacement lighthouse was constructed at Point Perpendicular in 1889.

The 'Then' photo shows a group of lighthouse staff having their photograph taken on cleared ground in front of the lighthouse.

The 'Now' photo shows what's left of the lighthouse & the cleared ground resumed by the bush. The houses are all gone.

The lighthouse was used as target practice by the RAN between 1917 & 1922 & reduced to rubble.
 
20-Dec-11
In a small town in New Zealand where we stayed. Saw this photo of how it was and saw how it was now-still a small country town with a lot of the old buildings still there.
 
17-Nov-11
Gilbert Street in Latrobe, Tasmania viewed from the western end of the street
The older photo was undated but is thought to be in the mid 1940s. Apart from the removal of telephone lines and more modern cars, much of the streetscape evident in the older photo can be identified in the current photo. Latrobe is a heritage town marketing itself with its heritage, antiques and scenery.



 
08-Oct-11
Taken in the small township of Corryong in NE Victoria, the first shot shows the Post Office and regular mail coach. I think this was taken in the early 1900s, and the photo is marked with 'Coach off to Tallangatta 7.30am'. The recent photo is taken from the roundabout in the main street, a much later addition!
 
12-Sep-11
WanderingAus wandered by with the WanderingMrs (aka SWMBO) on day 111 of our annual Climatic Refugee trip, after 11 weeks in Darwin and a couple of weeks meandering across and down through Queensland we decided to spend a couple of nights in Bourke, just to acclimatize us to New South Wales.

After a very cold night it was time to do some exploring, and in our wanderings we visited the Lock and Weir on the Darling River. The first weir on the Darling River was built in 1897 and consisted of 33 wooden panels which lay flat in a high river to allow boats to allow boats to pass over. When upright the panels leaked water, and in 1941 the weir was concreted across to provide a permanent water supply for Bourke.

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The weir pool is 47 Km long and holds approximately 4,470 megalitres of water.



*Overall Experience: 2*

T4TH big dazza
Keith
 
09-Sep-11
WanderingAus wandered by with the WanderingMrs (aka SWMBO) on day 108 of our annual Climatic Refugee trip, rolling in to Cunnamulla from Charleville, and after setting the caravan up at the caravan park we went for a drive around town, and I spotted a fountain, which is the centre piece of the Cunnamulla War Memorial which occupies a triangular island in the middle of the street. The fountain is a sister to one in Wellington NSW, and is the only fountain in the world constructed as a War Memorial to The Great War (later known as World War One).

At one point of the triangle is an information board which includes a photo of the War Memorial from before World War Two. Originally there were three World War One cannons which graced each point of the triangle around the fountain. Those cannon were removed during World War Two and buried in the sandhills, to avoid them falling into enemy hands in the event of the Axis forces invading Australia north of "The Brisbane Line". Such was the relief when Australia wasn't invaded that those cannon were left in the sandhills, to be lost to eternity.

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In the current photo, taken from the same viewpoint but with a wider angle lens, you can see the pal trees which were planted to commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the end of World War Two, and a 105mm Field Howitzer from the Vietnam War era, which was placed here in 2002 and unveiled on Anzac Day of that year, to replace the three World War One cannons. The building in the background to the left of the palm trees is the only recognizable building in both photos.

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*Overall Experience: 2*

T4TH big dazza
Keith
 
24-Aug-11
WanderingAus wandered by on day 91 of our annual Climatic Refugee trip, finally heading south out of Darwin with the WanderingMrs (aka SWMBO) after an 11 week stay.

After doing some maintenance on GC1TFK4 1888 by gibbo003 in Pine Creek, I crossed the road to the Museum/Public Library, located in the Pine Creek Repeater Station which dates back to 1913 and was declared a Heritage Place in 1995.

In front of the museum I found an information board with a detailed history of the building.

This building was prefabricated in England, shipped to Australia, and erected in 1889 as the Mining Warden's office at Burrundie. It is the oldest corrugated iron building in Australia.

It was moved to it's present location in Pine Creek in 1913, but shortly afterwards mining slumped and the building became a Pharmacy, a Doctor's residence and from 1927 served as a dispensary and clinic. In this tropical climate it provided plenty of space and shady verandahs for patients and staff.

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In the early 1930's it was used as quarters for staff of the nearby Half-Caste Home.

In 1934 the Flying Doctor, Clyde Fenton, began regular clinics, and by 1936 it was re-equipped as a small hospital with a direct telephone link to Katherine Base Hospital.

During WWII it was taken over by the Military as a communications centre. After the war, the building began it's era as the local Post Office and telephone exchange until 1976 when the installation of modern equipment made it redundant.

Scheduled to be demolished in 1980 the building was taken over by the National Trust of Australia (NT) and in 1983 became the local Museum and Public Library.

Note that there is no mention of it's use as a Repeater Station, however the heading on the signage which gave the above information reads "REPEATER STATION 1889", and another sign nearby is headed "Pine Creek Repeater Station 1913".

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*Recommended* *Overall Experience: 2*

T4TH big dazza
Keith
 
20-Jul-11
WanderingAus wandered by on day 56 of our annual Climatic Refugee trip, after dropping the geoPajero at the local Mitsubishi dealer for it's 45,000 Km service I was on foot with about 6 hours to spare.

After walking around Cullen Bay I headed in toward Darwin City, then started walking around looking for possible locationless cache finds. I came across the Darwin Administrator's Office, which was originally constructed as the Court House and Police Station, with a cell block at the rear. It was constructed using locally quarried porcellanite stone and cyprus stone in 1883. The court house survived the Japanese air raids in 1942 and was then occupied by the Royal Australian Navy as Naval Headquarters HMAS Melville due to it's proximity to the port. The buildings remained the Navy's headquarters until their partial destruction by Cyclone Tracy on Christmas Eve 1974, when rooves were torn off and many of the walls came down. The remaining walls were braced against further collapse, and the ruins were on occasion occupied by squatters.

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In 1979 it was suggested that the original pre-WW2 poloice station and court house should be rebuilt for use mby the Administrator as offices. The Chief Minister, the Honourable Paul Everingham MLA, was receptive to the proposal, although apparently advised by a senior public servant that "the old stone building was a "heap of rubble" and it would cost way too much". The Chief Minister was firm that the proposal should proceed.
The ruins were cleared and a large quantity of the original stone was saved and stockpiled on site, so that the buildings could be restored as closely as possible to their original state. The buildings were officialy re-opened on 24 December 1981, the seventh anniversary of the devastation of Cyclone Tracy.

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I think I'm pretty close to the original spot for the photo, although it was difficult to match because of the wide angle lens of my modern digital camera compared to the old glass plate camera which would have taken the original.

After 5 hours 50 minutes and 13.271 Km total walking in 32 degree heat and 50% plus humidity my caching success for the day was a revisit of GC1Q8HA Old Darwin Hospital by CHEDENT which I found two years ago, collection of two travel bugs from there, and eight locationless cache finds including this one. My feet were aching like you wouldn't believe, so I surrendered at the bus stop - after all for old blokes like me the buses in Darwin are free.

*Recommended* *Overall Experience: 2*

T4TH big dazza
Keith
 
14-Jul-11
WanderingAus wandered by on day 50 of our annual Climatic Refugee trip, after dropping the WanderingMrs (aka SWMBO) at the Darwin Cinema Complex for a viewing of the final Harry Potter movie, I had over 2 hours of caching time available.

I was driving along the Esplanade when GC16PBN Lameroo Beach by gibbo003 popped up on my screen as having travellers in it, so I found a parking spot (in the shade even, how lucky is that?), and headed over to see if I could pick them up. I was disappointed to find there were no travellers in the cache.

I decided to take a walk around town, and came across the remains of the Palmerston Town Hall. The building was opened on 10 March 1883 and served as the Town Hall for 54 years, then various other purposes, including 18 years as part of the Royal Australian Navy's shore base HMAS Melville from 1941 to 1959. It was devastated by Cyclone Tracy on Christmas Eve 1974.

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In acknowledgement of it's significance, the ruins were stabilised, and now stand as a reminder of Cyclone Tracy, the concentric paving at each end reminding us of the destructive forces of the cyclone. The information board includes photos of the town hall in all it's glory.

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I couldn't take the shot from the same spot as the original photo, I waited out a constant stream of muggles stopping to stand in the shade of the tree which now stands at the photo origin, and after 20 minutes finally gave up (my parking meter time was running out fast) and went to the other corner. If you look closely at the right hand edge of the doorway, there is a piece of black visible to the right of the right hand brace, which is a muggle about to appear - I saw him walking across, clicked the button as he was about to disappear, and with digital delay my timing was perfect.

*Recommended* *Overall Experience: 2*

T4TH big dazza
Keith
 
27-Mar-11
Found these two mini's on a front lawn in Newcastle
 
06-Nov-10
Here is a double Then and Now! I took a friend to visit Jenolan Caves in the Blue Mountains of NSW and on the walk in from the car park spotted two old photos on info boards. The first is the Grand Arch with a car (in 1918! Shocked ) coming out, the second in the approach to Caves House about the same time period. Visitors have been coming here for around 150 years, it is interesting to see the changes.
 
14-Oct-10
Found this old pic of Flinders St, Townsville on the net. The buildings have changed significantly, and this is my best guess of the right spot. The one remaining building looks similar. Did a few runs up the street, but this looks as good as it gets.
 
06-Aug-10
The Horse Shoe Inn is one of the "oldest" licenced establishments in Tasmania if not Australia. The photos show it in its original state and as it exists today. History for this drinking hole is also shown in the pics. Had one or more drinks here on one or two or more occasions. Enjoy the pics, like I enjoyed me drinks; cheers and TFTC; OldSaint.
 
25-Jul-10
When we moved Mobility Stealth (GA1679) to a new spot we managed to get a photo of it in exactly the spot this old shot of the Meadowbank road punt was taken in 1928. It's now the area of the ferry terminal but across the south side of the river you can see the boat ramp which was the old spot the punt used to land. In the background you can see "Old Rusty" the original rail bridge that went out of commission in the 80s - a new boring concrete bridge was built on the far (western) side. The road bridge, which rendered the punt obsolete, is a kilometre or so to the left (east).
 
13-Jul-10
The Then and Now photos of Alice Springs were taken from the famous vantage point, Anzac Hill. It was pouring with rain the day we were there so it was a quick dash up to take the photos. Also managed to log the Trig Point, a Travelling Trolley and another nearby cache, getting thoroughly drenched in the process!
 
26-Jun-10
Here's our "local" its been there before Canberra existed. The "then" shot is post 1887 when the pub license lapsed and it was taken over by the publican's nephew John Read (pictured with wife Ellen & son Harry) photo borrowed from http://www.oldcanberrainne.com.au
The "now" shot shows the pub back again for us locals to enjoy.
 
08-Jun-10
This is almost a "reverse" then and now as the "now" is younger than the "then"! At the corner of Payneham and Portrush roads there used to be a large pine tree referred to as the tree of knowledge that was a well known meeting place. At some point the tree was cut down but more recently a new tree was planted as a replacement. There is also a sculpture depicting the tree nearby which is visible in the "now" picture.
 
04-Jun-10
The palace hotel was first built in 1902 by RJ Loughheed and was remodelled in 1910. This building was destroyed by fire in 1913. The new building was made from bricks that were hand made on site. The building had a face lift in the 1980's about the time that the Tarong Power Station and Mine were being constructed.
 
27-Feb-10
The Keilor Hotel, Old Calder Hwy, Keilor.

The brick and stone structure was built in 1849, succeeding a timber building constructed in 1842 (pre-gold rush). It is currently owned and operated by the Dodd family, and has been with this family for 144 years.

The above coordinates are the location at which the photos were both taken. You can see that there have been extensions to the western side of the building, but the original stone pub remains standing. You can read more about the Keilor Hotel at http://www.keilorhotel.com.au

Thanks for this locationless cache, big dazza - it was a lot of fun researching the old pub, and challenging to photograph it from the same location, ~150 years later!

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19-Jan-10
The City Hall at Hobart, originally the New Market, an exhibition centre in the 1800's. The original photo was taken 1870.
 
04-Jul-09
Found while setting a new cache at the site of the Old Elsey Homstead (GC1VFG3). Thanks for the cache.
 
This is my hometown and the City I am employed by... HARRISONBURG, VIRGINIA (USA). I did not have my GPS available when I had the opportunity to take this photo but the coordinates are: Lat: 38.448954 Lon:-78.868816. The upper photo was taken in 1939 and the bottom photo was taken yesterday, February 20, 2009.
 
11-Feb-09
Found this one while doing another very nearby cache. There's a signage board in Penguin explaining the history of the area, with a black and white photo showing the historical view of Penguin Beach from the same spot as the present view, for comparison. A ready-made Then and Now!

"Penguin was first settled in 1861 as a timber town, and proclaimed on 25 October 1875. The area's dense bushland and easy access to the sea led to Penguin becoming a significant port town, with large quantities of timber shipped across Bass Strait to Victoria, where the 1850s gold rushes were taking place. The town was named by the botanist Ronald Campbell Gunn for the Fairy Penguin rookeries that are common along the less populated areas of the coast." - Wikipedia
 
27-Dec-08
Gosford School of Arts
The original building was erected in 1888 and it featured a library, reading room, large meeting room, Municipal Chambers and a hall capable of seating 250 people.
Unfortunately the original building burnt down in 1927, the current building was erected in 1929 on the foundations of the original building.
Gosford Public School used the building as classrooms in the 1950s. It is now used by the Department of Education as a Teachers Resource Centre.
The old photo was taken Circa 1908 and the new one in 2008.
 
07-Nov-08
OLG GOVERNMENT HOUSE, GARDENS POINT, BRISBANE

Built in 1862, the building acted at the Queensland Governor until 1909, when the site became the original site for the University of Queensland. During this period 11 Governors took residence in the building. Can read more here http://www.ogh.qut.edu.au/history/governors.jsp

A new Government House was constructed at Bardon, to the west, which is now the current Government House.

The original photo was possibly taken prior to 1873, before the upper verandah was installed.





Today the house forms part of the QUT Gardens Point Campus, and is open for tours, though it is currently closed for restoration, reopening
 
16-Jul-08
Main street of Moruya NSW.

Above the door of Red Rose Cafe just down the road in the direction the picture was taken is an old black and white photo of the street that has been printed onto a sheet and stuck on the wall. I suspect it dates from the 50s due to the dates of some of the buildings that are still there.

Taking a similar photo with the GPS in picture was hard to frame properly as it is the middle of the road coming off the bridge (which I suspect it busier these days), so was a bit rushed. The photo without a GPS was taken the other day (which is why the cars are different) but that was before I saw the requirement to have the GPS in the picture, but is from a better angle.
 
07-May-08
Another interest history about Post Office - Now Museum.

The Old Post Office
Built in 1865 it served firstly as a Post office (1865-1910) then was used by the Police Department until 1975 when it was given to the National Trust. Located in the centre of town it is now the National Trust Maritime Museum housing a display of maritime, smelting, communication and local history artefacts. It proudly announces that it has the largest pictorial display of sailing ships in any museum in South Australia. It is open Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday and school holidays 10.30 a.m. - 4.00 p.m. Public holidays 10.00 a.m. - 4.00 p.m.

At Wallaroo, SA. Please see the pics.
 
07-May-08
The old Tipara Reef Lighthouse was eventually dismantled due to deterioration. Now at Museum. Thanks
 
05-Mar-08
This is the Mechanics Hall in Romsey. The original photo is from the 70's and not much has changed since then. The Hall is now used for dance classes and senior citizens meetings.
 
22-Feb-08
Woy Woy war memorial and garden.
This garden was dedicated in 1932,but had been constructed and set up in 1925 ( see pic 1)
i could not match this old photo as a building resides in the location the photographer was. so i had to resort to the 1932 dedication ceremony.
(see pic 2)

The interesting thing about this garden, it has been constructed in the shape and pattern of the Australian flag, with star shaped garden beds,and the union jack laid out in gardens and paths you can see them in the 1932 photos,and alive with color in the 2008 image.

thanks for the fun .

 
14-Feb-08
Cooma Railway Station - constructed 1888

Its design followed a prototype, devised by John Whitten, Engineer-in-Chief, which allowed for the same basic layout to be used for stations of varying importance and size.

The scale and style of the Cooma building is a reflection of the towns status and prosperity at the time. Whitten applied different decorative architectural features to each station and Cooma's building is distinguished by rendered mouldings around windows and doors, cast iron columns with ornate capitals, iron lace work, gables with fretwork and tall finials.

The last commercial service to Cooma was in mid 1989, when a daily service operated from Sydney via Canberra to Cooma.

Now a 1926 renovated carriage is operated by volunteers and runs on Sundays to Chakola. It is a popular trip for tourists.
 
09-Feb-08
The QANTAS hangar at the old Ross Smith Aerodrome in Darwin was constructed in 1934. The 'THEN' photo shows the hangar under construction. The hangar was damaged during the bombing of Darwin, which can still be seen today. The 'NOW' photo shows the hangar as it is today. It is currently leased to the Motor Vehicle Enthusiasts club who use the hangar as a workshop and display area for vintage engines and cars.
TFTC big dazza.
 
07-Feb-08
With the nearby suburb of Kingston thriving in the late 1800's Blackmans Bay was fairly quiet with only a few Sunday visitors wandering over the sandy track from Kingston to the Blackmans Bay blowhole.
The early settler families combined whaling and farming and had hacked small farms out of the bush. By 1908 many farms had become apricot orchards with owner built shacks appearing in the 1920's that were mostly built out of recycled timber. There were no facilities and the locals had to walk over the hill to Kingston for church, shopping, school and to possibly visit the vet.
It was the late 1970s before the apricot orchards were removed and Blackmans Bay took off as a preferred residential area.

Thanks big dazza for the cache. Logging this was harder than I thought it was going to be but heaps of fun to do.
 
04-Feb-08
Here’s an example.

This carpark is located at the top of Castle Hill in Townsville, Nth.Qld. S19 15.482 E146 48.250. The “then†photo was probably taken just after WWII. The area had various military uses during the war, an observation bunker remains today. The “now†photo was taken on 4/2/08 and shows some subtle changes. Today there are toilets, lookouts, walking tracks and best of all a cache! (GCGBAV)
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