LIBERTY HALL St Arnaud, Victoria, Australia
By
supawitchming on 02-Dec-14. Waypoint GC5HC4E
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Logs
Unfortunately, I have had to archive this cache due to incessant muggling. I will put a new one in place in a slightly different location I’ve scouted.
Checking here and guy across the road to help - he knew exactly where it was. Or where it should have been... We both searched but no luck. Could be missing again?
Spent quite some time here with hevwalker,
even with some helpful advice, we still ended up empty-handed.
Hope the cache is still here...
even with some helpful advice, we still ended up empty-handed.
Hope the cache is still here...
clare007 & I stayed in St Arnaud overnight on the way to the Alexandra Mega event...
After a long search & 2 PAF's were still could not locate this cache...
After a long search & 2 PAF's were still could not locate this cache...
Unfortunately,thus cache has been stolen after recent finds by new geocachers. As it was a very specific cache it may take some time to replace. Sorry folks but some just have to ruin things for others
Just checking on this one. All where it's supposed to be now. Very important to put it back EXACTLY where it came from. Thanks
Found as we headed towards home after a weekends caching to, from and around Swan Hill. I'd love to have cached around here for a few hours, but we needed to get back home. So this was my one and only St Arnaud cache today. The GPS had me going everywhere and I struggled to get a fix on GZ, so went with Geosense, which was turning up nothing after searching on 3 walls. I read the recent DNF, and decided to use a PAF for a little bit of a hint. Can't believe I missed this. LOL. My thanks to supawitchming for the hide and the informative history on Liberty Hall.
The closest my phone registered on either side of the building was 9m and even that wandered around. Will look again next visit. Thanks
Suscoe was in the area today enjoying a wander in this beaut countryside.
It was a cloudy day with drizzle here and there, and a little cool at times and then a little warmer later in the day.
Thanks to supawitchming for this hide. A beaut old hall indeed.
It was a cloudy day with drizzle here and there, and a little cool at times and then a little warmer later in the day.
Thanks to supawitchming for this hide. A beaut old hall indeed.
Here with 'geodaughter' enroute to Arapiles - she loved this one! Luckily I've seen a version of this clever little trick before. Thanx!
Passing through and stopped for a coffee break in St Arnaud. Of course had to check where the nearest caches were and like a good corset, this one's history drew us in. Corsets, one fashionable item MrsG was glad died a natural death. A cleverly hidden cache, perfect for this spot. TFTC supawitchming.
**# 16258** Found on our 2017 escape to Vic trip.
A perfect autumn day for a drive around St Arnaud.
Not many muggles around and a few quick drive-by finds.
This one was tricky even though I have seen similar many times.
Thanks for the cache supawitchming,
***Roostaman***
A perfect autumn day for a drive around St Arnaud.
Not many muggles around and a few quick drive-by finds.
This one was tricky even though I have seen similar many times.
Thanks for the cache supawitchming,
***Roostaman***
In the area for a weekend of geocaching and fun with Aussie M & M. Having downloaded a torch app..... Oops forgot the real torches, a bit silly when caching after dark.
This was a quick find after reading a previous log..... thanks Bushfire.
Thanks
This was a quick find after reading a previous log..... thanks Bushfire.
Thanks
Thank you Lawrie from Bushfire. His log led mogni straight to the hide. We were really amused that a great Vic mate helped us out without being here. TFTC.
The ageing Bushfire is in St Arnard and was lòoking for a mystery that had been worked out a long time but as I arrived in down town St Arnaud the batteries in the 650 decided they were tired so grabbed the phone but it did not have the corrected co-ords hence I was at the start not the GZ.
Simon to the rescue so a great Geo chat and I have to say pointed me in the direction of that guy.
Needing some milk for breakfast he also helped there so I will get a good start today.
Well a new day has dawned and I am after a few caches mainly in the bush near by with the weather hotting up. This is a very clever hide but will need a touch up shortly.
Thanks for placing this cache supawitchming.
Simon to the rescue so a great Geo chat and I have to say pointed me in the direction of that guy.
Needing some milk for breakfast he also helped there so I will get a good start today.
Well a new day has dawned and I am after a few caches mainly in the bush near by with the weather hotting up. This is a very clever hide but will need a touch up shortly.
Thanks for placing this cache supawitchming.
Found with the geo-crew during an evening peddle around town and after a feed of burgers at the Royal. Three of us stood guard for muggles whilst the geo-son conducted the search. Not many folk about, even though there was a full moon on the rise. Many thanks supawitchming
Found at 10:01 AM GAFF5 in the company of Rebel Acts.
For a D of 1.5 we didn't just walk up to it and say here it is Our GPSr initially pointed to the correct location and that is when we should have pounced onto it, but we missed it and then the GPSr sent us all over the place until we came back to the initial location to spot it.
Were the corsets made for the soldiers?
Thanks supawitchming.
For a D of 1.5 we didn't just walk up to it and say here it is Our GPSr initially pointed to the correct location and that is when we should have pounced onto it, but we missed it and then the GPSr sent us all over the place until we came back to the initial location to spot it.
Were the corsets made for the soldiers?
Thanks supawitchming.
Found with pprass, I had been hearing about the quality of caches in the St Arnaud area so I arranged to meet up with pprass for a couple of days caching, We were not disappointed with the caches we found in the area. We did a few circles and then had the cache in hand, love the History here. Thanks supawitchming for the cache.
Just passing tro and decided to "do a few"
Well disguised but soon in hand , signed and replaced
We had our wedding reception on this hall 46 years ago
TFTC
Well disguised but soon in hand , signed and replaced
We had our wedding reception on this hall 46 years ago
TFTC
Well this was an epic journey with OZHOCKEYCHICK ended up packing the car and heading off to St Arnaud for the events on for the weekend.
We left the Friday and found a few along the way and then spent the weekend out on our bikes, then on foot, in the car, then with torches.
was a big weekend full of fun and some very great places found with some awesome caches.
Only thing i can say was the mozzies where a nightmare.
Thanks for placing this cache and bringing me to this location.
We left the Friday and found a few along the way and then spent the weekend out on our bikes, then on foot, in the car, then with torches.
was a big weekend full of fun and some very great places found with some awesome caches.
Only thing i can say was the mozzies where a nightmare.
Thanks for placing this cache and bringing me to this location.
With the coordinates taking us around the corner today we soon realised our mistake and found the well camouflaged cache not so far away.
Thanks supawitchming for the sneaky hide.
Thanks supawitchming for the sneaky hide.
1:50 pm #2368
After a lovely lunch with some awesome cachers, Lukie1987 and I hit the road for some drive-bys.
This one had us searching for quite some time. Very tricky indeed! Cheers!
After a lovely lunch with some awesome cachers, Lukie1987 and I hit the road for some drive-bys.
This one had us searching for quite some time. Very tricky indeed! Cheers!
A quick and easy find as we cache our way around St Arnaud for the weekend. Thanks for bringing us here and thanks for the cache.
Great Town with a lot of lovely buildings, and this is one of them,
Love reading about the history of old buildings,
I have seen caches like this before, so let Geo-daughter find it, this one blended in very well
with its surroundings.
Thanks supawitchming
Love reading about the history of old buildings,
I have seen caches like this before, so let Geo-daughter find it, this one blended in very well
with its surroundings.
Thanks supawitchming
Well what do I say about this one. It had us looking here, there and everywhere. We didn't have any luck this afternoon so we came back after the picnic and found it about 12 metres from GZ. Good hide. Have seen these before.
SL TNLN TFTC
SL TNLN TFTC
Found with The 2 Wanderers. We had looked for this earlier in the day, but could not spot it. Came back after the event, and there it was- staring us in the face! TFTC
In St Arnaud for a weekend cache event. Had some time before the first event so off for a walk to find a few nearby caches. Very cleverly disguised cache indeed. Geodad spotted it first as he had seen one like this before. TFTC supawitchming
** Smile # *4096* / Traditional # *3171* **
This geo family was off on school holidays and with an early start, St. Arnaud was our first stop for some breakfast but as I had not found a cache within this area, this was the first priority before finding something to eat and a coffee. A nice old building and without any muggles about, the geo daughter and I set about finding this one. I spotted this one immediately, always a nice cache hide that I have found many of. Signed and replace as found.
**Thanks for placing this trad cache supawitchming** [^]
**Cache container and log in good condition**
**Took nothing, Left nothing**
This geo family was off on school holidays and with an early start, St. Arnaud was our first stop for some breakfast but as I had not found a cache within this area, this was the first priority before finding something to eat and a coffee. A nice old building and without any muggles about, the geo daughter and I set about finding this one. I spotted this one immediately, always a nice cache hide that I have found many of. Signed and replace as found.
**Thanks for placing this trad cache supawitchming** [^]
**Cache container and log in good condition**
**Took nothing, Left nothing**
A new log has been put in cache today. Can I once again ask that finders please put this back in its exact location. Thanks
10:04
One really good thing about being too early for an Event, is that there is time to seek out a couple of nearby caches. Together with the Squalid team this is what we did and after a short search both teams had earned a smiley token.
Satellites today had our GZ 12m SSW of where we found the cache.
Noted log was full but see that the CO has now replaced - thank for prompt attention.
Our thanks to supawitchming for placing this cache.
16468
One really good thing about being too early for an Event, is that there is time to seek out a couple of nearby caches. Together with the Squalid team this is what we did and after a short search both teams had earned a smiley token.
Satellites today had our GZ 12m SSW of where we found the cache.
Noted log was full but see that the CO has now replaced - thank for prompt attention.
Our thanks to supawitchming for placing this cache.
16468
We tried to find this one the night before, but it was dark and it was SO cold that we thought we'd try again in the morning.
The next day we ran into the Phetlern team and we all looked for it. It was found after a short search - thanks for the hide.
The next day we ran into the Phetlern team and we all looked for it. It was found after a short search - thanks for the hide.
We tried to find this one the night before, but it was dark and it was SO cold that we thought we'd try again in the morning.
The next day we ran into the Phetlern team and we all looked for it. It was found after a short search - thanks for the hide.
The next day we ran into the Phetlern team and we all looked for it. It was found after a short search - thanks for the hide.
We tried to find this one the night before, but it was dark and it was SO cold that we thought we'd try again in the morning.
The next day we ran into the Phetlern team and we all looked for it. It was found after a short search - thanks for the hide.
The next day we ran into the Phetlern team and we all looked for it. It was found after a short search - thanks for the hide.
Found today after the Surf Coast event. Log is chock-a-block full. Managed to just squeeze in our initials. Needs a new log
Found after attending the nearby event, it was our first trip to this area and we spend the day exploring and adding smiles, thankfully we have seen this type of hide before and it was soon in hand, the log is very full, we found a small space to squeeze our name on, and it was replaced. TFTC
Accurate coordinates and a familiar style of hide led to a quick find. The cache was in good condition but the log was full and needs replacing. Thanks supawitchming for the cache,
Thanks for a great cache found whilst we r here for the two events held this weekend Log signed
Bice one have one like this back home so it hit me in the face when I saw it TFTC
Cold. Warm. Hot. Love having a previous finder on board.
This cache was found using a Garmin GPSr, Montana 650t, Oregon 550 or Dakota 20. Waypoints and paperless geocaching downloaded via GSAK 8.
This cache was found using a Garmin GPSr, Montana 650t, Oregon 550 or Dakota 20. Waypoints and paperless geocaching downloaded via GSAK 8.
Found on a 3 days tour of Victoria.
The team had a great time finding all but 5 of the caches we attempted.
A great time was had by us and thanks to all who placed caches/
Apologies for the generic logs.
TFTC
The team had a great time finding all but 5 of the caches we attempted.
A great time was had by us and thanks to all who placed caches/
Apologies for the generic logs.
TFTC
Off with the frog and friends for a weekend's caching in Victoria.
This was one of our many stops along the way.
Cheers & TFTH
This was one of our many stops along the way.
Cheers & TFTH
What a great hide, this one had us stumped and a little help from rustymac we were able to locate it thanks
We met the CO at the cache we did before this one, as she was sitting in a car watching us try and replace a nano whilst pretending to pose for photos as we thought she was a muggle! LOL
This one was surprisingly easy to find under torchlight. I enjoyed finding this one, great cache hide and great to meet you.
A lovely location and nice spot to stop on our fun roadtrip from Adelaide to St Arnaud. The main aim of our trip was to complete the BM series, attend the CITO event and obtain the the special souvenir (as amazingly not 1 CITO had been arranged in SA). Locus Cache and I collected CPwanderer, then spontaneously en route Muff1 asked to join in on our trip from Kaniva...lol...and of course the answer was yes! We loved all of the caching we did and had such a fun time filled with crazy happenings and lots of laughter. Woo Hoo...bring on the next roadtrip
Thanks for the cache supawitchming
This one was surprisingly easy to find under torchlight. I enjoyed finding this one, great cache hide and great to meet you.
A lovely location and nice spot to stop on our fun roadtrip from Adelaide to St Arnaud. The main aim of our trip was to complete the BM series, attend the CITO event and obtain the the special souvenir (as amazingly not 1 CITO had been arranged in SA). Locus Cache and I collected CPwanderer, then spontaneously en route Muff1 asked to join in on our trip from Kaniva...lol...and of course the answer was yes! We loved all of the caching we did and had such a fun time filled with crazy happenings and lots of laughter. Woo Hoo...bring on the next roadtrip
Thanks for the cache supawitchming
This was one of the great caches found on a weekend trip to St Arnaud with locus cache, GoodLook and muff1! It was great to return to this area because of the quality hides and lovely surrounds. While our main targets were the Bush Meander series and the CITO event we collected many more in and around the town!!
We located this one by torchlight! Great hide .... Thanks!
We located this one by torchlight! Great hide .... Thanks!
On a few days tour with the old man showing me a few places he lived and where some of the people in the family tree passed their time.
After lunch I took a short walk from the main street at this cache. It didn't take long to spot the neat hide. I've always like seeing these hidden in plain sight! Nice placement!
TFTC
After lunch I took a short walk from the main street at this cache. It didn't take long to spot the neat hide. I've always like seeing these hidden in plain sight! Nice placement!
TFTC
A long weekend and another trip with the geo 'rents and geobro'. What a cool way to spend Easter
Headed for Albury for 2 nights and then Bendigo for 1 night and we took each day as the caches came. A turn here, a turn there, a dirt track here and there and miles and miles of bitumen [^]
LOL, I've just seen one of geobro's cache logs and it reads very much like mine
Although he forgot to mention that he not so kindly shared his viral germs with geomum and I! [xx(]
Today (day 4) I found 26 caches and had 2 DNFs
Unless mentioned otherwise, please know that your cache and log book was in good condition.
So I walked around here while the others finished their lunch but I still hadn't found the cache by the time they arrived
Didn't they pay me out about it too
Turned out a few weeks later I met the CO while I was on a return trip to St Arnaud and I heard the whole story
Where I had been looking wasn't where the cache should have been as someone had moved it
So my PAF wasn't helpful as they had found it in the incorrect place and hence guided me back there to the wrong side while the CO had actually put the cache back in its original position.
TNLN. SL. TFTC supawitchming
Headed for Albury for 2 nights and then Bendigo for 1 night and we took each day as the caches came. A turn here, a turn there, a dirt track here and there and miles and miles of bitumen [^]
LOL, I've just seen one of geobro's cache logs and it reads very much like mine
Although he forgot to mention that he not so kindly shared his viral germs with geomum and I! [xx(]
Today (day 4) I found 26 caches and had 2 DNFs
Unless mentioned otherwise, please know that your cache and log book was in good condition.
So I walked around here while the others finished their lunch but I still hadn't found the cache by the time they arrived
Didn't they pay me out about it too
Turned out a few weeks later I met the CO while I was on a return trip to St Arnaud and I heard the whole story
Where I had been looking wasn't where the cache should have been as someone had moved it
So my PAF wasn't helpful as they had found it in the incorrect place and hence guided me back there to the wrong side while the CO had actually put the cache back in its original position.
TNLN. SL. TFTC supawitchming
We're off on a four day geofamily (Geodad: moneydork, Geomum:Tounga, Geosis: locus cache and geobro: ME) road trip adventure heading to Albury and Bendigo. A lot of miles were covered, many sights seen, lots of laughs, mirth and merriment during the trip. Oh, we found a few caches along the way as well. Day 4 was going home day.
Three sets of eyes looking and we couldn't find this cache ... Magic words were mentioned when Geosis did the PAF and I had the cache in hand in seconds. It's a very well camouflaged cache!!
Thanks for the cache supawitchming.
Three sets of eyes looking and we couldn't find this cache ... Magic words were mentioned when Geosis did the PAF and I had the cache in hand in seconds. It's a very well camouflaged cache!!
Thanks for the cache supawitchming.
[^] GOT IT . Have been looking on east wall , log entry gave a couple of slight clues but even with a lot of hunting could not put my finger on it, was about to leave when I spotted a VERY well camo. cache. TFTC
This is a nice little hide that blends in really well to the surrounds.
Should be muggle safe if no one spots what you are up to
Thanks supawitchming
Should be muggle safe if no one spots what you are up to
Thanks supawitchming
Found it with jtnsilo watching from the car since she'd found it earlier in the day. I've seen this kind of container before (I have one myself, not used yet), but I didn't spot it immediately since it blended in so well with its surroundings. It's probably the best hide of this type that I've seen so far actually and deserving of a favorite point. Well done supawitchming and thanks for the cache!
Glad to get this one this morning! here in St Arnaud for GC6BY0X (Casual Catch Up in St Arnaud featuring Gemma & Bec) TFTC
New concrete been pored right where it says it is may need replacing or moving if it's still there
Found it once somebody driving past and realised what we were up to stopped and showed us. Granted we have just joined the geo caching family, so this was our very first. We really had no idea what to expect. We certainly enjoyed our roam around the building, even had a neighbor helping us look! Anyway our first attempt didn't deter us and we continued on to another location and found the next one quite quickly. We will certainly be doing more geo caching, great family activity.
A quick find as GPS put me right there. Stood back and yes it was discovered. Log signed and safely back. To me it looks like it is the intended position. Well done and love the history of this lovely building.
Went searching last night with my mum for over an hour and had no luck at all.
We went back this morning when there was no muggles around and had a look and quickly found it.
Once you see it you can't unsee! What a great spot it's in!
We went back this morning when there was no muggles around and had a look and quickly found it.
Once you see it you can't unsee! What a great spot it's in!
It's been a long time since caching in this town- caching in general. Took a bit of looking. Then stood back, looking casual, and finally spotted it. So noticeable once noticed! Great one to find. Thanks for the challenge and to spark the fire needed to restart caching again.
After almost deciding to archive this one,I'm glad I got the message that it was still alive and kicking just in an entirely different location! I'm not making assumptions about if a fellow cacher or just a muggle had moved it but can I absolutely implore, that it's vital that this cache be put back exactly how you find it. If not,it totally compromises it. Thank you
We found this cache today at 2:25pm as 18 of 37 on our Sunraysia Highway Shuttle. We only noticed that this one was marked offline after we had found it. We can note to the cache owner that it is definitely there. It may not be where you originally placed it but it is there. Thanks from D, HA, H & A B-A.
Here from SA for the Melbourne Mega Event and grabbing caches on the way home after a great couple of days. TFTC.
Out caching with the Sisterhood of the Cargo Pants. Nav has the trip all planned out so The Professor and I just need to sit down, shut up and hang on! A sneaky hide, well camo'd. Found while a local was trying to get us to "knock on the door, they'll let you in."
~ Crazy Creels.
~ Crazy Creels.
Its been a long time since the Sisterhood of the Cargo Pants have been out together - probably the same Bendigo Cup day last year. After missing the recent event we were keen to get out and do the new caches.
The locals were very helpful with directions to get in the hall but despite that CC managed to find the cache where I had already looked.
TFTC supawitchming
The locals were very helpful with directions to get in the hall but despite that CC managed to find the cache where I had already looked.
TFTC supawitchming
In town as part of The Sisterhood of The Cargo Pants to do some caching.
As we were searching for this one, a lady across the road was trying to give us directions on how to get into the hall, we waved her off. Surprise find here. TFTC
As we were searching for this one, a lady across the road was trying to give us directions on how to get into the hall, we waved her off. Surprise find here. TFTC
Great weather for a weekend of geocaching, and the flies agreed. Great coords- and an easy find. Cache is in good condition and the geokids made a few swaps.
Ive found this cache on a previous visit, but I decided to let the Geokids loose. Toothless charged in then decided to stand back. Apple Pie, cautious to start with, was onto it fast. OK, she had overheard me talking about it, and has seen this type before. Both kids were impressed with the camo.
Ive found this cache on a previous visit, but I decided to let the Geokids loose. Toothless charged in then decided to stand back. Apple Pie, cautious to start with, was onto it fast. OK, she had overheard me talking about it, and has seen this type before. Both kids were impressed with the camo.
Have missed logging quite a few caches, trying to catch up.
Regards The Coffee's.
Regards The Coffee's.
Finally catching up on some logs... We had a massive and awesome weekend with great events. Thanks to all of the St Arnaud geocachers for the fantastic collection of caches here.
A great weekend was had finding caches with becca85, neisha07 & GemmaSistema. TFTC!
A great weekend was had finding caches with becca85, neisha07 & GemmaSistema. TFTC!
After the Lunchtime local event, I headed out with becca85, GemmaSistema & boo09 to rack up some smilies in town. Lots of fun had with some fantastic caches around town. We will be back sometime to finish off some more. TFTC! (Apologies for generic logs)
Found by Mary & David at 1115. Just time for one more before today's lunch event. We love facts, figures and history like this. Just imagine the romance during its time as a theatre. Our thanks to supawitchming.
After a leisurely start we joined forces with The Coffees, maccamob and micaparamedic at the motel and were soon off looking for local caches.
We arrived at the near by Lunch in St Arnaud event so went for a walk to try our luck on this one.
We all agreed this is a fantastic looking hall and it sure has some history to tell.
We admired the old architecture as we waited for some muggles to pass before grabbing the cache and adding our names to the log.
Many thanks supawitchming for the cache and history lesson.
Lest We Forget.
We arrived at the near by Lunch in St Arnaud event so went for a walk to try our luck on this one.
We all agreed this is a fantastic looking hall and it sure has some history to tell.
We admired the old architecture as we waited for some muggles to pass before grabbing the cache and adding our names to the log.
Many thanks supawitchming for the cache and history lesson.
Lest We Forget.
Multiple events held by Geo-Friends meant a weekend road trip for boo09, neisha07 & myself. -From an hour away!
We spend this arvo caching our way from the Bell Rock (Earthcache) back in to town with GemmaSistema and the Geo-boys.
I have one of these myself in its 'nude' form. Fantastic camo job here. I spotted this one fairly quickly, although I did walk past it at least twice first. Thanks superwitchming!
We spend this arvo caching our way from the Bell Rock (Earthcache) back in to town with GemmaSistema and the Geo-boys.
I have one of these myself in its 'nude' form. Fantastic camo job here. I spotted this one fairly quickly, although I did walk past it at least twice first. Thanks superwitchming!
St Arnaud Events (version 2)... After last year's event weekend I just had to come back and sample some more of the fantastic caches around the area.
Another cache that I had to walk away from last night because of the comings and goings of muggles. This morning a short search revealed the well camo'd cache.
Thank you, supawitchming, for this cache.
#3424. Log signed at 0729Hrs
Another cache that I had to walk away from last night because of the comings and goings of muggles. This morning a short search revealed the well camo'd cache.
Thank you, supawitchming, for this cache.
#3424. Log signed at 0729Hrs
A superb camo job that had me walking back and forth a few times until my caching eyes kicked in and pop there it was! Excellent job. Tftc
A beautiful old building with a wonderful history to match. We have seen a few of these before so our eyes and hands quickly latched onto the sneaky hide in plain sight. So nice to be out walking after our 4 hour drive to get here. SL at 1.40pm #3100 TFTC supawitchming
In St Arnaud with the two geokids (4 & 6) for a huge weekend of adventuring. Today we teamed up with becca85, boo09 and neisha07 to tackle some caches. A nice camo job here. Well done. Thanks for highlighting a great building too! Thanks for the cache, much appreciated
After enjoying a fantastic picnic in the park event in balmy spring evening weather, it was just after dusk and we weren't quite ready to go back to the caravan park yet. We figured it was the perfect opportunity to grab a couple of town caches under the cover of darkness, rather than battle the muggles on Saturday morning. We actually had two attempts at this cache. The first time we were looking a bit too far away and eventually decided to move on before we attracted any attention, even when there didn't seem to be a soul around (you can never tell who is watching behind the curtains from the nearby houses). We returned a little bit later armed with a small hint from a friend, and spotted the clever hide immediately. Very nicely done indeed! TFTC supawitchming.
After the Friday arvo event we headed in to town to do some more caches. This was nearby so we stopped to have a look. Romax cottoned onto this faster than me and we were soon logging the find and heading off.
TFTC supawitchming
TFTC supawitchming