Historic Site: St John's Orphanage Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia
By Throsbyonchurch on 27-Dec-17. Waypoint GA11269

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Type: History
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Coordinates: S34° 45.674' E149° 42.664' (WGS 84)
  55H 748138E 6150086N (UTM)
Elevation: 653 m
Local Government Area: Goulburn Mulwaree

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Grab a photo of St John's Orphanage with you and/or your GPS in it to log this virtual.

St John's Orphanage, Goulburn

 

St John’s Orphanage was opened in 1905 by the Sisters of Mercy and the Catholic Chruch and operated for 71 years until its closure in 1976. For the first 7 years of operation St John’s housed both boys and girls, and was one of the first to do so. In 1912 St Joesph’s House of Prayer was opened and became the girls' orphanage, and St John’s became an all-boys orphanage. At its peak, St John’s housed 200 boys which was far above the suitable capacity of the building.

According to many records, the orphanage wasn’t the happiest of places and the boys were often subjected to slave-like conditions and barbaric punishment, the kind of treatment young boys should never face. There’s an account from a boy who stayed at the orphanage where he claimed that when you first entered the orphanage you were stripped of all your clothes and then given just one set of clothes (not even any underwear) and this one outfit that you lived in day and night was only allowed to be washed once a week. Having a pair shoes that fit or that even had laces only happened when you left the orphanage, they normally were given shoes too small or far too big. Beatings and other punishments were a common practice in the orphanage. Such punishments as being locked in rooms, canings, beatings and floggings were given out freely and regularly. Cold showers and neglect of proper medical care even when injured or sick were just a couple of the health risks these boys faced in their time there. Meals were sparse and often not appealing. Education was limited and based on religion and Latin. Only the more academically gifted boys were provided education past the 5th grade and these were done off premise.

After the orphanage shut its doors in 1976, it became Youth With A Mission Base Goulburn until the late 1990’s where people of all ages came from all over the world to do discipleship training courses and to serve on staff in this Christian Interdenominational Organisation.

There has been talk of the orphanage being torn down and turned into residential apartments and reports of it being restored but nothing has happened todate.

 

Photos of the buildings can be seen here:

          http://www.abandonedaustralia.com/2016/02/abandoned-st-johns-orphanage.html

          http://www.stjohnsgoulburn.org/history/

 

The orphanage sits on a block almost to itself, so you can drive around it and have a good look.

 

Please don't venture into this property it is PRIVATE PROPERTY, not only that but you could get seriously hurt.

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07-Jul-21
What a terrifying looking building and yet it is so sad. Maybe this was always how it was seen by the children who lived here. How lucky are we who were brought up in a loving stable family. It is hard to believe that nothing has been done with the building after all these years, not that I have any idea what should happen to it. It must hold so many secrets - maybe there are some happy ones hidden away. Thanks for this revealing cache Throsbyonchurch. Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sadClan CerberusClan CerberusClan CerberusClan CerberusClan Cerberus
 
31-May-21
This morning we visited St John's Orphange site and took the required photo. Thanks Throsbyonchurch for the cache.

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05-Jul-20
A quick grab with Black Bunny as we passed by.

Thanks for the cache Throsbyonchurch
 
05-Jul-20
Finally remembered to stop and grab this as we passed by.

Thanks for the cache Throsbyonchurch
 
30-Dec-19
Quick stop in smoky Goulburn on our way home
 
01-Dec-19
Finally remembered to stop and grab this one while heading to Sydney for the grandsons birthday.

Thanks for another history cache TOC...
 
11-Sep-19
What a derelict old building this is now. It looks like it has had a fire through it at some stage too.
Noticed a For Sale sign on the corner as we approached this one too.
Think it would have been quite a grand building in its time but like a lot of these institutions a nightmare for the kids that had to live there.
Have read quite a few accounts written by children brought up in orphanages and your heart goes out to them for what they endured both physically and mentally.
Thanks.
 
02-Aug-19
Spending two days in Goulburn and enjoying caching. Mainly GC caches, but a few GA as well. TFTC.
 
12-May-19
GCA 2,361. Found during a Mother's Day GCA run along the Hume with minniek.

After finishing the Bushranger series we headed back via a bunch of virtuals. This was the next and a quick find.

Thanks Throsbyonchurch !!

Clan Cerberus
 
12-May-19
After breakfast (and lunch in bed) and some lovely Mother's Day presents, fitzy_1965 and I decided to do a bit of GCA caching for May Madness.

Back in Goulburn after a jaunt down the Hume. I have driven past this place a lot over the last 9 years but have never stopped to have a look. It has also been subject to arson at least three times in that 9 years. Whilst it is private property, there is now a big temporary fence surrounding the block.
 
28-Apr-19
Went for a spontaneous afternoon of caching in Goulburn. Three hours of driving for just a handfull of caches, I think by now I have to admit I am addicted!
TFTC Wilbert67
 
28-Apr-19
Day 17 Mainland trip
Out and about finding a few more caches before we head off somewhere else. Stopped to get the required infomation. A shame the building has been let go. Just a shell left now. TFTHC
 
28-Apr-19
Clan MinotaurClan MinotaurClan Minotaur Visited this location and snapped required pic.

Many thanks Throsbyonchurch for creating this virtual and highlighting this location. Clan MinotaurClan MinotaurClan Minotaur
 
Loved reading about the history of the orphanage although rather a very sad story. Such a shame that the building is in such a bad state. Thanks for sharing. TFTC Clan MinotaurClan Minotaur
 
01-Feb-19
Sad to read the history of this (and some logs), and also sad to see the state of the building. Development at any cost?

Tried to log this cache a couple of times using the phone app, but it failed. Not sure what is happening there.

Thanks,
 
24-Jan-19
Found x
 
06-Jan-19
Goulburn trip January 6th 2019. I decided to come up to Goulburn to try and grab the caches that were ready to be found. The trip up Mount Grey was the highlight. A good day and it was not too hot.

Thanks
Albida
 
15-Feb-18
#GA2456 - 1745; Third stop as I was headed in to Goulburn for a meeting. Managed to find my way in from the main road and along a small side street right up to the old building. Grabbed a snap from outside the fencing which now surrounds the site. Probably a fair number of safety issues which would prevent access to the site nowadays. TFTC Throsbyonchurch Very HappyClan Cerberus
 
12-Feb-18
Perhaps the cache type needs changing to a history cache.....?
 
21-Jan-18
Found with Kittykatch. Very sad time. Thanks for bringing me here
 
21-Jan-18
This cache is quite a significant one for me. My father and his brothers were sent here when my dad was about 4yo. The family had fallen on hard times and they spent at least a year here. My dad's father came to visit, took the three older ones (including my dad) out on a day visit and just kept walking. They walked to Canberra, then down to Batemans Bay and on to Omeo, Victoria where they had family. My dad was only 5yo and he walked the whole way too. He remembers walking across Lake George when it was very dry with no water in the lake. Unfortunately the youngest brother, my Uncle Jack, did not go with them as he was too young to make the walk, and he died of malnutrition and lack of care when he was sick after the older boys had left. My dad blamed himself all his life for his brother's death as Jack had pleaded to be taken with them. Hard times indeed. So standing here today, looking at this old wreck of a building, brings tears to my eyes. Thank you for the cache though and your story. It was good to read other logs where others had a more positive memory of the place.
 
28-Dec-17
Whoa, that was tricky - had my story all written and tried to submit, but didn't realise I needed a code word. Question now answered and code supplied thanks TOC.
I'd like to add a different perspective to life at St John's, at least in the 70's before it closed.
Although not a resident, I did get to know and befriend a couple of the boys, as they would attend the same Catholic schools I did in Goulburn. I visited St John's on many occasions, as my uncle was a priest in Goulburn in the early 70's. I would accompany him sometimes as an altar boy for masses conducted here. He would also take some of the boys on holidays and trips, to give them time away from the fairly spartan life at St John's. The church didn't like to spend money, so it was tough for them here. My uncle and his brothers (my father and another uncle) would, at their own expense, try to make their lives a little more normal and enjoyable.
I even learnt Judo at St John's as an early teenager.
Unfortunately, the old buildings have been the target of firebugs since 2015, with all that now remains is blackened, dangerous shells. Its a shame the current owner was never able to afford his dream of renovating the main building and turning the place into a conference and accomodation centre. Crying or Very sad
 
27-Dec-17
Enjoy viewing this piece of Australia's history.